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10-13-2009, 08:34 PM | #1 | Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,140 | Online 'smithing courses
When you're pressed for time and there aren't a lot of local options, are any of the online gunsmith courses worth anything? This is for general maintenance and repair...how to headspace a barrel, for instance. I'm not looking for anything too esoteric. You know, stuff more advanced than assembling an AR lpk and less advanced than designing and milling your own custom receiver.... __________________ When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them but protect them against you...you may know that your society is doomed. ~Ayn Rand |
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10-13-2009, 10:12 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: FEMA Region 5 Posts: 1,193 |
If you can give me a year from January 2010, Ill let ya know. lol. Iv been looking into these online courses from placces like Ashworth and my favorite, Pennfoster. My biggest concern is the fact that gunsmithing is a extremly hands on hobby/carrer. It bothers me that Ill be learning parts of that trade with little to no hands on learning. Im also interested in hearing oppinions on this subject! __________________ "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."
---Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1778
“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
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10-14-2009, 01:30 AM | #3 | Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 48 |
I've never taken an online 'smithing course but did take a correspondence course. It will give you a large part of the theory of the various operations but none of the hands on, as you know. The other thing that it will lack is the ability to teach you how to diagnose problems on customer guns. I'm not familiar with other schools but at Colorado School of Trades, the students work on at least 35 guns. They will do everything from simple cleanings to custom rifles and pistols. The majority of the work, though, is diagnosing and repairing all types of guns.
Two years after taking the correspondence course, I moved to Denver so I could go the CST. That was back in '97 and I've been "in the business" since then. There are quite a some very good gunsmiths out there that are self taught but most people are better off attending one of the many brick and mortar schools.
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10-14-2009, 04:36 PM | #4 | Supporting Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Barstow area, Kalifornia Posts: 1,035 |
Online gunsmithing courses are worthless. Learning the trade requires a whole lot of hands-on work. You must either attend a school or apprentice under an established or master gunsmith. There is also the School of Hard Knocks. This school requires several books and years of self taught hands on, hopefully using most of your own guns.
Jim................... Last edited by masterPsmith; 10-16-2009 at 03:42 PM. |
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10-14-2009, 10:14 PM | #5 | Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,140 |
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Originally Posted by masterPsmith
Online gunsmithing courses are worthless. Learning the trade requires a whole lot of hands-on work. You must either attend a school or apprentice under a an established or master gunsmith. There is also the School of Hard Knocks. This school requires several books and years of self taught hands on, hopefully using most of your own guns.
Jim...................
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No doubt that's true if you want to get into the business and really learn the intricacies. There's no substitute for being with someone who knows what they're doing and getting your hands dirty. But that's not me. Not right now.
I'm looking for either an online course or DVD that will show and describe how to do stuff that is maybe somewhat advanced for the average gun owner and probably mundane to a proper gunsmith, like modifying the pull on a trigger, or headspacing a barrel, like I mentioned before. Any suggestions are welcome! __________________ When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them but protect them against you...you may know that your society is doomed. ~Ayn Rand |
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10-15-2009, 05:26 PM | #6 | Result of sheltered life! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lebanon, Ky Posts: 3,622 |
I havn't reviewed them so I can't determine their usefullness but I've heard the AGI armorer's courses are worth looking into. They're specialized for each particular type of firearm that is featured on the cd. Jim is totally correct if you want to be a full fledged gunsmith. |
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10-15-2009, 10:24 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 318 |
I took online gunsmithing with pennfoster, their materials pretty.....outdated. But they actually had a whole lesson on 1911 and customizing which wasnt so bad. Only prob is no hands on training, unless you have your own that you wouldnt mind fiddling with. I used some of my uncles so it helped with the learning. __________________ Every day above ground is a beautiful day. |
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10-16-2009, 05:41 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: FEMA Region 5 Posts: 1,193 |
Thanks everyone, this more or less answered my questions in reguardss to the online schooling. __________________ "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."
---Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1778
“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
---Ron Paul |
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12-15-2009, 09:04 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bracebridge, Ontario Posts: 336 |
I'v had good luck with Ashworth and A.I.G.dvds, But I also have extincive knowlage in milling and using a lath.
F.K. |
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