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Old 05-29-2011, 10:35 PM   #1
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The trigger was sightly worn on my Winchester 1895 and a new one would cost about $70 So I decided to try and fix the old one. I added some metal with a welder, roughly shaped the "new" metal with a bench grinder, hand filed the trigger to the final shape and polished out the file marks with some very fine steel wool. I think I did pretty good and saved some $$.

Now my question is should I heat treat this? The trigger does not receive any recoil, spring tension, or any other "forces", its just a link between your finger and the sear. The only pressure it gets is from your finger pressing the trigger.
How would I go about doing this? I googled it but theres lots of different methods...

I figure Ill put a pic of my repair here too. It was flat where the point on top of the trigger is.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:38 AM   #2
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How hard was it to grind the trigger back to shape? That should indicate how well it will last.
I would try it for a while as is (keeping a lube on parts) and see how it holds up. Some welding is stronger than the original material.
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As Dan said, the weld could be harder than the original, I don't think you need to heat treat that. There are applications when heat treating can be a negative since it will be more brittle.
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U could also aply "Kinsnet". Heat the part up to cherry red and dip in the " kisnet" let cool and you are done.
This hard surfaces the out side but keeps the inside soft as the base metal.
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U could also aply "Kinsnet". Heat the part up to cherry red and dip in the " kisnet" let cool and you are done.
This hard surfaces the out side but keeps the inside soft as the base metal.
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Could you give a link or something, I tried to google it but all it brings up is web stuff. (servers, networking stuff)

Ill leave it alone for now, but still would like to know what "kinsnet" is
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U can buy kisnett from welding supply stores. I bought mint through" Brownells" I may not be spelling it right as i have dislexia(sp). But if you go on the Brownells web sight they will have it.
I hope this helps F.K.
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U can buy kisnett from welding supply stores. I bought mint through" Brownells" I may not be spelling it right as i have dislexia(sp). But if you go on the Brownells web sight they will have it.
I hope this helps F.K.
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I don't think they make Kasenit anymore. It was a surface hardening compound. A redneck replacement is regular sugar.
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I don't think they make Kasenit anymore. It was a surface hardening compound. A redneck replacement is regular sugar.
I bought some from Brownells 2 years ago, but who knows.
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I did a quick check at Brownells for Kasenit and they still list it but it is out of stock(I heard forever?).
Doesn't matter in this case as I would just leave the trigger the way it is.
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