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Old 07-16-2012, 08:35 PM   #1
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I took a lunch break at the range today, and my BHP stopped running.



I had put two mags through it already, and two or three rounds into the third, it stopped. The previous round fired, and when I pressed the trigger nothing happened. Looking at the slide, I saw that it wasn't in battery (as you can see in teh picture), so I gave it a little tap, but it didn't move. So I counted off ten seconds, dropped the magazine and pulled back on the slide to clear the round. Not budging.

At this point, I'm not sure how physical I want to get with this thing. I did a quick search and found a thread on another forum. Someone had a similar problem. He traced the problem to a combination of Hi-Powers having particularly tight chambers (didn't know that) and using lead ammo that runs a little largish.

Anybody seen this before?

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Old 07-16-2012, 09:12 PM   #2
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Just to verify the round in the chamber is live?

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I'm gonna say yes.

I didn't have an exact round count when I was firing, and I didn't keep up with the spent casings. So I guess there could just be a piece of brass in there, but I'm pretty sure it's a live round.

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Have you tried to tap the slide back?

Be safe, place the slide below the barrel on a desk or workbench like this;



Tap (with prudence) on the grip and the recalcitrant cartridge should be ejected.



Check for witness marks on said cartridge to determine the reason for it's insubordination.

On the other hand, it just may be a broken recoil spring.

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That did it...much the same way as I have to disassemble my Ruger 22/45. I even keep a rubber mallet handy.

There is only a slight mark on the bullet, and I don't think it's even going to show up in this picture.



In the photo with the pair of rounds, the culprit is on the right. The overall length looks right, but there's something just the least bit odd around the rim of the case.



After I got the round out, I cycled a new round in from a magazine, then ejected it. That part was smooth.

Preliminary diagnosis is one bad round.

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The casing on the right looks to be longer.
Not by much, but enough.

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I think danf's right, looks like a longer case.

Kinda like a 45ACP/460Rowland or 38SPL/357Mag.

The 9mm Luger headspaces on the case rim...right...like most autoloader rimless cartridges?

utf, you need one of these EGW Chamber Checkers;





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Are those reloads?
The 9mm has a slight taper where the mouth is smaller in diameter than the base. The bullet on the right also looks like it has a slight roll crimp (optical illusion or result from being stuck?)
A roll crimp does work in revolvers, but not in the 9mm semi-auto.

The standard 9mm is 9X19. I would use my "Harbor Freight" caliper and do some measuring.

Glad things worked out.

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The round was factory Winchester White Box. I noticed the crimp on the round, too, but I figured it was caused by being stuck.

I think I might break out the caliper and double-check it just for fun.

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