Beavertail install issue - adaptable or order another?
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Gunsmithing & Do-It-Yourself Projects > Gunsmithing Forum > Beavertail install issue - adaptable or order another?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-23-2012, 09:27 PM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
LongBaller71's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MO
Posts: 845
Liked 761 Times on 342 Posts
Likes Given: 274

Default Beavertail install issue - adaptable or order another?

Bought a beavertail to put on my RIA. Not sure of the maker as it was a spare takeoff part. Looks unused, but it's not gonna fit now that I have it. The inner tang on the GS that I purchased turned out to be flush with the side of the GS rather than offset inside by 1/16". With it flush to the side, it is hitting part of the trigger slot on the frame and not allowing it to fit in all the way. I know I can't alter the GS to get that offset, but can I buff down about an 1/8th inch of that slot and still have the GS function? Don't want to do it if it could cause other issues. I may have to just order another GS, but wanted to ask the experts here first.



__________________
Dave
_________
Ammo is expensive. Do NOT expect a warning shot!


dhcustomwork.com
/ dhcustomwork@gmail.com
LongBaller71 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 08-23-2012, 09:34 PM   #2
10-32
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
mountainman13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 11,525
Liked 2917 Times on 1718 Posts

Default

It's hard to see in the pics. You should be able to work on the part to get it to fit.

__________________

I don't need No stinking signature.

mountainman13 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2012, 10:01 PM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
LongBaller71's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MO
Posts: 845
Liked 761 Times on 342 Posts
Likes Given: 274

Default

Here's a couple more pics. Not sure what I could do to the part other than take material off the outside of that tang. But surely that would make it too thin if I took off enough to clear the trigger groove bump. Would it be safe to take off just a little of that top trigger groove bump?



__________________
Dave
_________
Ammo is expensive. Do NOT expect a warning shot!


dhcustomwork.com
/ dhcustomwork@gmail.com
LongBaller71 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2012, 10:25 PM   #4
10-32
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
mountainman13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 11,525
Liked 2917 Times on 1718 Posts

Default

I think I'm gonna have to refer you to cane on this one.

__________________

I don't need No stinking signature.

mountainman13 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2012, 11:59 PM   #5
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 258
Liked 23 Times on 19 Posts

Default

The grip safty works by blocking the trigger bar. The pecker that sticks out the front does the blocking. The lengnth of the pecker as well as a slight positive cant on the engageing surface is what matters when fitting. You can sand file hammer or do whatever you want to the rest of the grip safty as long as when it is installed it blocks the trigger and remains in place if you pull the trigger without squeezing the grip.

so basically dont mess with the legnth of the pecker unless you intend to change how the grip safty engages.

Incidently, it may be too long, too short, or have the wrong engagement angle, hovever none of that matters untill you can actually fit it in the frame, and pin it in place

__________________
triggerjob is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2012, 12:15 AM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 258
Liked 23 Times on 19 Posts

Default

If it were me, id do one of two things, sand boths sides of the new beaver tail untill it slides into frame, you should be ok taking a few thousands of the width of the pecker. Having said that i dont think that beaver tail will work good on your gun anyway, it may not engage the trigger bar, as it looks farther to the right than the olde one.

Better for you would be to take old safty to a welding shop have them add a chunk load of new metal aro7nd the tang, then you can file sand and polish your own custom tail which will fit ur gun.

Generally speaking, you dont want to file your frame, adjust the cheaper part to ffit the mlre expensive one.

__________________
triggerjob is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2012, 12:25 AM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 258
Liked 23 Times on 19 Posts

Default

I just took a closer look at your frame and he new beaver tail, im about 90% sure it is not going to no matter what you do. The best bet is to weld up the tang on your old safty and file it to a shape you like.

The pecker on the new safty wont fit unless you chop it off and move it left into the same plane as the old one. As this would require more work than a beaver tail is worth, just weld up the old one.

__________________
triggerjob is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2012, 12:29 AM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
LongBaller71's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MO
Posts: 845
Liked 761 Times on 342 Posts
Likes Given: 274

Default

Thanks very much guys! I figured I may as well try thinning the pecker to see if it would fit in around that groove bump. If it didn't work, I was already going to need another GS, so why not.

Well, it worked! I was able to take off just about 1/32 and it slid right in. Looks like it should still hit the right spots, but I'll know more when I get it further together. The thumb safety fit in and I've got the right amount of play. Now to finish sand and polish the frame tangs and start testing all functions again. Not sure if I'm going to re-parkerize or go the duracoat route.


__________________
Dave
_________
Ammo is expensive. Do NOT expect a warning shot!


dhcustomwork.com
/ dhcustomwork@gmail.com
LongBaller71 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2012, 12:36 AM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 258
Liked 23 Times on 19 Posts

Default

Lol,
To answer your question, you should be ok trimming that ledge on the inside of the frame. Sorry for my other convoluted answers, i lost your question while observing the pics.

__________________
triggerjob is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2012, 12:56 AM   #10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
LongBaller71's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MO
Posts: 845
Liked 761 Times on 342 Posts
Likes Given: 274

Default

LoL! No worries! I thought it might be better to avoid messing with the ledge if possible. I may be handy, but I'm no 'smith for sure!

I'll get a few better pics of the fit in a bit when I get back from the store. Still have a lot of minor blending and polish work to do on the frame.

Thanks again for the input!!

__________________
Dave
_________
Ammo is expensive. Do NOT expect a warning shot!


dhcustomwork.com
/ dhcustomwork@gmail.com
LongBaller71 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
RIA aftermarket beavertail? PLEASE HELP! thrashthis56 DIY Projects 1 01-18-2012 09:55 AM
loose beavertail, need how to MrWray 1911 Forum 12 10-28-2011 06:10 PM
beavertail safety question waxman895 1911 Forum 7 11-25-2010 07:12 PM
Beavertail on a Glock maschinegun General Handgun Discussion 0 07-06-2007 02:26 PM