Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Gunsmithing & Do-It-Yourself Projects > Gunsmithing Forum > 870 Express barrel on a Wingmaster

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-03-2012, 01:48 AM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5
Likes Given: 1

Default 870 Express barrel on a Wingmaster

I recently purchased a new 26 inch barrel for my 870 Wingmaster. It is blued in the flat Express blue. Does anyone know if I can use a cold blue product to increase the blueing to more closely match the bright blueing of the Wingmaster? I will have it hot blued if necessary since buying an Express barrel is about half the cost of buying a Wingmaster barrel.

Thanks

__________________
RonAz is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 11-03-2012, 02:19 AM   #2
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
hiwall's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Cleator,AZ
Posts: 3,147
Liked 627 Times on 407 Posts
Likes Given: 207

Default

The different look is that the express barrel is not polished as much as the Wingmaster barrel. So adding blue won't help.

__________________

Just walking on the edge of of my grave.

hiwall is offline  
axxe55 Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 03:38 AM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Blueguns's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: 2,000 miles Northwest of Bill's Laundromat, Bar & Grill, CA
Posts: 2,001
Liked 538 Times on 379 Posts
Likes Given: 273

Default

I may be mistaken, but I thought the express barrel was a matte finish.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model-870/model-870-express.aspx

This is the site, I'm unsure what "standard express finish" means. The Expresses I've held have been matte though.

As far as the barrel goes I don't think bluing a matte barrel would work.

__________________

-Matt


Last edited by Blueguns; 11-03-2012 at 03:41 AM.
Blueguns is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 06:45 AM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Axxe55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 24,410
Liked 16783 Times on 9730 Posts
Likes Given: 43815

Default

to get the Express barrel to match the Wingmaster finish would require stripping the finish, and polishing the metal and then re-blueing it. it might or might not, match when done.

__________________
CIA, FBI, NSA, GOP, ACLU, NIA, DOJ, DOD, FEMA, GOA, DOT, NASA, CDC, DARPA, DIA, NOAA, NRC, HUD, IRS, BLM, OSHA, EPA, SEC, SSA, TSA..........
Axxe55 is offline  
Blueguns Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 06:00 PM   #5
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5
Likes Given: 1

Default Thanks

Thanks you guys. I guess I hadn't thought about the fact that blueing wasn't really the issue; it is polishing. Maybe I'll just use it the way it is.

And Blueguns, when I called it the standard Express finish I meant the matte finish.

__________________
RonAz is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 07:00 PM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
racer_x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Arkadelphia, AR
Posts: 920
Liked 259 Times on 213 Posts
Likes Given: 1194

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by axxe55 View Post
to get the Express barrel to match the Wingmaster finish would require stripping the finish, and polishing the metal and then re-blueing it. it might or might not, match when done.
That was my thought, even if u did send it off for hot blue that it still may not match without reblueing the whole gun.
__________________
racer_x is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 10:07 PM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Axxe55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 24,410
Liked 16783 Times on 9730 Posts
Likes Given: 43815

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by racer_x View Post
That was my thought, even if u did send it off for hot blue that it still may not match without reblueing the whole gun.
for them to match completely, either both need to be stripped and bead blasted and the blued or both need to be polished then blued.

matte finish is cheaper for the manufacterer, because it takes out the man hours needed, to polish then blue the parts. a man cna bead blast parts in a few minutes and have them ready for the blueing tanks, polishing requires hours. hence the price difference.
__________________
CIA, FBI, NSA, GOP, ACLU, NIA, DOJ, DOD, FEMA, GOA, DOT, NASA, CDC, DARPA, DIA, NOAA, NRC, HUD, IRS, BLM, OSHA, EPA, SEC, SSA, TSA..........

Last edited by Axxe55; 11-03-2012 at 10:10 PM.
Axxe55 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 01:37 AM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
racer_x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Arkadelphia, AR
Posts: 920
Liked 259 Times on 213 Posts
Likes Given: 1194

Default

Ive done 3 cold blues so far im a learning fool lol so even hand sanding both wouldnt bring a match?

__________________
racer_x is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 01:52 AM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Axxe55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 24,410
Liked 16783 Times on 9730 Posts
Likes Given: 43815

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by racer_x View Post
Ive done 3 cold blues so far im a learning fool lol so even hand sanding both wouldnt bring a match?
maybe, maybe not. for them to match or as closely as possible, you would have to bring any parts back to the original base steel and polish them until all were polished the same. then equal amounts of blueing on all parts.
__________________
CIA, FBI, NSA, GOP, ACLU, NIA, DOJ, DOD, FEMA, GOA, DOT, NASA, CDC, DARPA, DIA, NOAA, NRC, HUD, IRS, BLM, OSHA, EPA, SEC, SSA, TSA..........
Axxe55 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 01:16 AM   #10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
racer_x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Arkadelphia, AR
Posts: 920
Liked 259 Times on 213 Posts
Likes Given: 1194

Default

so its all the base steel shine or scratch shine that the blue works? I mean duracoat an all aside.

__________________
racer_x is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
870 Wingmaster Barrel Old_Crow General Shotgun Discussion 11 10-06-2012 08:01 PM
870 express vs wingmaster pe175 General Shotgun Discussion 6 05-10-2012 01:05 PM
WingMaster barrel question 4tsmith General Shotgun Discussion 8 04-23-2012 03:25 AM
help with ole remington 870 wingmaster. shaneo206 General Shotgun Discussion 3 09-23-2010 12:17 AM
'65 Wingmaster autoland General Shotgun Discussion 4 01-09-2009 07:13 PM