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Old 10-30-2011, 10:12 PM   #1
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I was wondering if anyone here knows about why there exists only these kinds of weapons. Why is the Predator the only type of unmanned war machine in existence?

I though doing stuff ON the ground was easier than in the sky. But it seems like it's totally the opposite. The same goes for sea unmanned weapons. I've never heard of them.


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Old 10-30-2011, 10:26 PM   #2
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Oh the machine gun toting robots and RC toys are in development. Amazingly, it's easier to fly an RC airplane, than it is to navigate ground based RC equipment over and around some obstacles.

That's all there is to it. Researchers are working on it though.

As far as water based RC weapons? I think there's just no call for it right now. We aren't fighting any navies, but there are ideas for using RC submersibles to disarm underwater mines. So, the tech is there, just no need to be using it.


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There is a lag between command and actions. In the air, that lag is acceptable, and you have the advantage of being above the surface and easier to get a signal to the plane. On the ground, could be unacceptable. Speculating on sea, it may be tougher to get the signal to the "ship"
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I'm sure they have far more than we know.
I have a friend that has been working with the ground robots in the army. No real info on them from him, but they do have them.

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submerged RC stuff doesnt work. salt water stops high frequency radio signals needed to send data back and forth. the main issue is time over or at target area. flight can be extremely fuel efficient so time over target can be measured in days.

electric/solar power is ridiculously innefficient as is gas or other similar fuels powering ground vehicles. a surface support crew would have to be stationed fairly close.

ground bots are used at a unit level for recon but there is no way they can fill a role similar to a predator.
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An unmanned ground vehicle would lose the element of surprise, and render it useless. The predator is so sucessful because you can't see it coming, either by eye or radar; you can't fight what you can't see.

A RC tank would be just as susceptable to a RPG, mine or IED as a soft manned vehicle. We have had remote controlled underwater navy vessels for many years, they are called torpodes.

Full size ships would not make good unmanned vehicles, yet, because they are so dang complicated to run. While many systems on ships are completly computer controlled, it still takes a machinest mate to grease the shaft bearings, and a bosun to scrape the paint.
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I was wondering if anyone here knows about why there exists only these kinds of weapons. Why is the Predator the only type of unmanned war machine in existence?

I though doing stuff ON the ground was easier than in the sky. But it seems like it's totally the opposite. The same goes for sea unmanned weapons. I've never heard of them.
The predator is not the only unmanned flying war machine in the air. Most countries in the world have their own versions. We also have remote vehicles and subs.

Ever seen big dog? Ground pounders won't need to carry 100 lb packs anymore.

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The predator is not the only unmanned flying war machine in the air. Most countries in the world have their own versions. We also have remote vehicles and subs.

Ever seen big dog? Ground pounders won't need to carry 100 lb packs anymore.
Not quite there yet, but damn that's cool. fix the noise issue, and work on putting some kind of feet on it, so it can keep up.

Moves so good, I almost felt sorry for it when it stepped on the ice.


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