Oh I meant no disrespect and you definitely don't stand corrected. Your post was amazingly informative and you are an obvious voice of experience. I just meant I beat the he'll out of the crovel and it just kept performing. My sincere apologies if it came across as rude or elitist. I meet people everyday that are better than me in almost every aspect of shooting and survival. When I can I learn whatever I can from others, I just happened to have used the crovel a couple months ago and wanted to share my apologies. My apologies if I offended sir.
I'm exSpetsnaz. The second replies are true. We learn to make everything a weapon including our sepierka shovels, and we train with every weapon to make the user so comfortable they use it automatically.