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Old 03-03-2010, 11:57 PM   #21
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With your vast knowledge and experience, you should be Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. You could arm our troops with axes and laser-thingy's and we'd win every battle for sure.

Grow up kid or go back to the video game forums...
Probably can't win there. Removed the kill button from joy stick.
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Oops! almost forgot a nonlethal weapon effective in military uses. We have a laser-type-thingy that messes around with nerves and makes you feel like you are literally on fire. It causes no known physical damage, and penetrates pretty much everything. Fire that into a crowd, and unless they are tough little punks, they will be running for cover in no time at all. Much nicer than unloading with a HMG.
Do you think our enemy are tough little punks? Most punks would not last a day in ss training if by some remote chance they ever qualified for it. This is real war. I have friends that I will never have a chance to see again because some sheet head ended their lives with IEDs. Do you think they are worthy of mercy? Why don't you go and try to rehabilitate them?

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I'm not talking about enemy combatants. I'm talking about a group of kids who have been misled by extremist propoganda, who have also lost tons of friends and family due to the violence. The people who will take over the country when we leave. I recently lost two friends who were killed by guns, Andrew Kistler and Carson Wallace, and I miss them very much. That doesn't mean I bear any ill will towards guns. I have known soldiers who are no longer with us, but they were not killed by a group of protesters, they were killed by clear enemies. I do not think that mercy for terrorists is ok, but I do think that mercy for the rest of the country is.
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You are a young teenager who does not know anything about the real world. Youíre about 16 or 17 years old and are talking about things way out of your league and experience. Come back in 10 or 12 years when you have matured and experienced reality other than school and then talk to us. But until then those of us who have experienced the real world and have actually been to a war zone really donít want to wade through your touchy feely Bull sh*t.
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I'm not talking about enemy combatants. I'm talking about a group of kids who have been misled by extremist propaganda, who have also lost tons of friends and family due to the violence. The people who will take over the country when we leave. I recently lost two friends who were killed by guns, Andrew Kistler and Carson Wallace, and I miss them very much. That doesn't mean I bear any ill will towards guns. I have known soldiers who are no longer with us, but they were not killed by a group of protesters, they were killed by clear enemies. I do not think that mercy for terrorists is ok, but I do think that mercy for the rest of the country is.
Where do you think those enemy combatants come from. Do you think that one day they were innocent little kids and the next morning they woke up as terrorists?

The propaganda you speak of is hammered into these poor kids, to hate and kill the infidel and to kill them is honorable since birth. Murder and killing is a way of life for many. They don't understand nor can the majority of them comprehend that troops are in country to liberate them from the warlords and cults that rule their country. The general population have become sheep, unable to defend their property, lives and their own freedom. This is what totalitarian governments do to the populace; it is essentially slavery.

Our military makes every effort to avoid civilian casualties. What makes it difficult is that these 'enemy combatants" use the innocent as human shields. They fight from high density civilian population areas, kill their own with suicide bombs, and generally have little or no concern for their own populace. Separating the wheat from the chaff in Afghanistan, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, and the US and the rest of the world is not going to be easy, clean or without collateral damage.

Read about how WWI started and how the Treaty of Versailles started WWII. Start to understand how freedom has been denied to hundreds of millions of people throughout the world since the beginning of time. Learn that everry totalitarian government has been responsible for the murder of 100s of millions of people (civilians). Reflect on the FACT that America is the only place in the World where there is still freedom. This country represents the only free people since the beginning of time. And true freedom hasn't existed for much less than 200 years throughout the entire time line that man has been on the planet. It is worth protecting and fighting for.

I'd rather fight for it in the terrorists country than to have them here trying to take my freedom and way of life from me. They brought this upon themselves by attacking the US. We don't start wars, son; we finnish them!!
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SCREW YOU! What the hell do you mean "real world"? My friends are dead and thats pretty real, and I'm not being "touchy feely". There is a difference between not killing non combatants and being "touchy feely".

You, young man, are going to want to watch who you speak to like that or you'll be shown the door very quickly. Correct me if I am wrong, but your friends did not die fighting for the freedoms that you enjoy. We are talking about a war. A war fought in foreign countries to avoid fighting it on our own soil, so you are safe at home playing video games instead of worried about being shot in your own home by terrorists. You know nothing of our training besides what you have heard, read, or seen footage of. You have not LIVED it. You have not LIVED war until you have stepped foot in country. You have not dealt with the horrible losses until you have escorted your bestfriend's body (or what they could find of it) back to his Mother and Father. And until you LIVE the military, like many of us have, you will not understand that those "misguided" youths often carry AK-47s and the like to attempt to kill American Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines. When someone is after your life, regardless of their age, you will not hesitate to take theirs first..... Now as everyone else has previously stated, please enjoy our forum and learn all you can. But to learn, you must first be willing to accept that you are not all knowing
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Not comics or video games. SAS & SBS both primarily use hearts and minds, and they are pretty damn elite.
I do not believe for one second you are a 15 year old boy. I do believe you are a vindictive nasty sneaky individual. Yes one of the many tactics employed by SAS lads is hearts and minds but it is rare indeed for these duties to be carried out by active in regiment guys. I officially invite you to prove your age and identity to one of our moderators in confidence. One thing you can be sure of our special forces are by definition the same as yours the best at what they do FIGHT. Do not presume to bring my comrades in arms into your futile left wing arguments.
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This thread have gotten way out of control.....the OP was asking "Modern non-lethal weapons and their use in actual combat"........
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