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gr8oldguy 11-26-2013 09:01 PM

Knives as weapons
 
I have looked up state laws concerning what is considered a concealed weapon. I can't find a definitive example of when a folding knife becomes a weapon. Is it based strictly on blade length, design, functionality or intent? Thanks for your time and look forward to the comments.

rapp1 11-27-2013 04:34 PM

What state are you in? because the laws are different in different states. I think you might have meant to ask when is it illegal to carry a folding knife concealed right? Any knife can be used as a weapon regardless of length. In a skilled hand they can be very deadly. In California carrying a concealed blade over 5 inches (I think) is a felony.

John_Deer 11-27-2013 04:49 PM

In most states a 3 1/2" blade on a concealed knife is legal. You really need to look up the laws for your state to be certain. Some states see a thumb stud is illegal. I have a Buck 110 that I put a thumb stud on. When I travel I put the Buck in the toolbox or trunk. Some cities and counties have their own knife laws. I have lost several Buck knives with a thumb stud. A police officer said the knife was illegal and confiscated it. None of the officers charged me or took me to jail. When you're in the middle of nowhere you are not in a position to debate the law.

MisterMcCool 11-28-2013 02:04 PM

It appears only switchblade knives are prohibited.

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/sites/default/files/dles/ccw/ccw-faq.pdf

trip286 11-28-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterMcCool (Post 1443473)
It appears only switchblade knives are prohibited.

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/sites/default/files/dles/ccw/ccw-faq.pdf

That's the way it is here. My cop friend, code enforcement head honcho, told me the rule of thumb is: as long as you actually have to touch the blade to open it, it's likely legal.

Sparky_D 11-29-2013 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rapp1 (Post 1442516)
What state are you in? because the laws are different in different states.

Laws are different from city to city as well.

For example, in Federal Way, WA I can legally carry my Ka-Bar TDI with its 2" blade, but if I head 12 miles North into Seattle, any fixed blade knife is illegal for carry regardless of blade length...

John_Deer 11-30-2013 03:13 PM

Here is a link to WI state laws (google is your friend). http://www.knifeup.com/wisconsin-knife-laws/#more-1305

The article is well written with each information source cited.

Cities and counties can make their own laws regarding knives. It's up to you to be informed of all these laws.

7point62 11-30-2013 05:47 PM

Around here a buckknife on the belt is a tool commonly carried everywhere. If I wore my Kabar on my belt I might get some looks. I'd be legal with my CWL to carry the Kabar concealed.

Axxe55 11-30-2013 05:59 PM

a normal sized pocket knife that is sharp can be used as a defensive weapon if needed and it's all you had.

kfox75 11-30-2013 08:51 PM

Here in NY, if it is longer than a 6 inch blade, is a gravity, switch, or ballistic knife it is not legal, exceptions being used when hunting or fishing. The big thing they seem to focus on is if it is designed to "intimidate" when it is seen. Open or concealed makes no difference, it is not a weapon unless it falls into one of the above categories or it is used as such.

As too enforcement, as long as you are not being stupid, there is rarely ever a problem. I have only been questioned on the knife I am carrying by a LEO a couple of times. the main question I get is "Where did you get that, and where can I buy one?", which I answer honestly when asked. Most of the time, the LEO and I will wind up comparing EDC knives at that point, and I even have one that was offered in trade for the one I was carrying at the time of the conversation. Knife laws here are about as relaxed as the laws regarding where you can CC a handgun in this state.


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