[kevinleif2]

*please disregard this post*

(sorry for the posting error)

[kevinleif2]

Originally Posted by coltm4

i was BSing with a guy at the range who turned out to be a Federal Air Marshal. at the end of his session i saw him load up gold dots into his Sig. i don't know if that's what they use while on duty but his profession gives him credibility regarding his choice of ammo.

coltm4-air marshals are under contract like will all agencies, so he has to use gold dots like he has to use his sig 229/239...not to say i don't have a box of gold dots for my two pistols...

anyhow, i'm surprised no one has mentioned 12 gauge for home defense...

[RL357Mag]

Originally Posted by kevinleif2

anyhow, i'm surprised no one has mentioned 12 gauge for home defense...

That's because this thread is about "self-defense"...the Home Defense thread is down the street...

[chopkick]

Hornady TAP in .45 and 9mm and Speer Gold dot in .38

[sgtdeath66]

i used to have extreamshock .45 fang face, nasty little buggers. once they hit soft tissue the seven "fangs" would seperate at 90 degree angles and the tungsten fillament would shatter causing 100's- 1000's of trauma wounds. if the bullet had enough energy to exit the body the exit wound was the size of a baseball. ive seen video of a 450 lb hog droping almost instanly from one 9mm round in the stomach area, it was awsome

[Benning Boy]

Rem Golden Sabers work very well for me. While I'd be interested in some of the tacticool designer rounds, I tend to avoid stuff I can't afford to practice with.

[sgtdeath66]

yea, those extream shocks were a bit pricey only fired a couple off in some pumpkins. it was fun

[sgtdeath66]

oh i forgot the main reason i bought those rounds were because the would fragment on solid objects making them the safest round for home defense

[mdw104]

I use Rem 165gr Golden Sabers in my Glock 22. They cycle without problems and accuracy is good too. I never tried any of the frangible rounds, so I can't comment on those. I've used Hornady XTP, .357 mag, in my Ruger GP100. They work well for me.

[Jay]

I think for the most part it's academic.........

In my opinion, in order for a realistic comparison to be made, the same gun/s should fire the same bullets into the same medium, from the same distance, with the point of impact being the same relative to the size of the medium.

The number of variables involved in the composition of a defensive shooting target, (ie a person with varying levels of clothing, and point of impact) and the lack of human test subjects, make accuracy of primary importance as opposed to performance data.

Yeah, I know about opinions, and this is just mine...