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chorst294 06-05-2008 10:00 PM

What's the best self defense ammo?
 
Ok, I'm curious to hear from you guys on this subject. I've been hearing a lot lately of the newest self defense ammo coming out and I was wondering what you guys consider "The best". By the best, I mean a good compromise between penetration and expansion. Several relatively new rounds come to mind such as the Corbon DPX, Federal HST, Winchester enhanced Ranger T, and the classic Gold Dot. I've used Hornady TAP in the past with good results but am leaning towards the new Federal HST when I replace my aging ammo supply soon. Any thoughts on the subject?

coltm4 06-06-2008 06:29 AM

i've heard good stuff about federal HST. one of the problems encountered with the older hydrashok rounds is that it becomes stuffed with material when passing through heavy clothing. once the round entered the body it would not expand to it's full potential. this supposedly does not occur with HST.
i have winchester t-series in my off duty weapon. last year the dept armorer and i tested a couple of different rounds in some old vests. without getting into specifics about the balistic ratings of the different vests and trauma plates we shot at, let's say that ranger t-series was impressive. with that said, winchester has a very strict policy in selling these rounds. they are pretty hard to get.

cpttango30 06-06-2008 02:37 PM

What ever shoots good out of my 45 is what I will put in it. Right now she is loaded with 185gr Speer Gold Dots. I tell you what they loaded them suckers on the stout side thats for sure.

robocop10mm 06-06-2008 05:24 PM

GOLT DOT.

The ONLY bullet that can guarantee 100% weight retention. They actually GAIN weight as they go. The jacket is plated on and cannot come off. They can adjust the jacket thickness one molecule at a time to get the perfect combination of jacket thickness-hollow point configuration.

I have seen the results of many different HP bullets in human flesh. The Gold Dot is as close to perfection as we can get right now. I would not trust my life to anything less.

coltm4 06-06-2008 07:01 PM

i was BSing with a guy at the range who turned out to be a Federal Air Marshal. at the end of his session i saw him load up gold dots into his Sig. i don't know if that's what they use while on duty but his profession gives him credibility regarding his choice of ammo.

Chuck 06-07-2008 04:25 AM

Anything that will turn your intended target into an organ donor with as few shots as necessary.

c3shooter 06-07-2008 09:15 PM

Would not feel poorly equipped with gold dot, corbon, Winchester Ranger, or hydra-shoks. But for an autoloader, must be a round that feeds and cycles WITHOUT FAIL EVERY TIME. Otherwise, you are holding a poorly shaped club.

RL357Mag 06-08-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chorst294 (Post 26890)
By the best, I mean a good compromise between penetration and expansion. I've used Hornady TAP in the past with good results


You've used ammo in self-defense with good results??? How so? Maybe I should be asking YOU some questions about what's best..lol

I have an FEG Walther PPK clone in .380 that won't reliably feed Hornady XTP's because of the truncated cone design. It loves Speer GDHP though and just about any FMJ I feed it. Can't go wrong with Speer GDHP - they feed like FMJ's feed and from what I've read, they have excellent one-shot stop statistics.

chorst294 06-09-2008 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RL357Mag (Post 27201)
You've used ammo in self-defense with good results??? How so? Maybe I should be asking YOU some questions about what's best..lol

I have an FEG Walther PPK clone in .380 that won't reliably feed Hornady XTP's because of the truncated cone design. It loves Speer GDHP though and just about any FMJ I feed it. Can't go wrong with Speer GDHP - they feed like FMJ's feed and from what I've read, they have excellent one-shot stop statistics.

No, I just meant they cycle reliably in my .45's and they are pretty acurate in my guns.

RL357Mag 06-09-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chorst294 (Post 27276)
No, I just meant they cycle reliably in my .45's and they are pretty acurate in my guns.

I've noticed most gun reviews use TAP ammo for accuracy testing. It is very expensive, especially in rifle cartridges.


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