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Old 05-12-2012, 12:23 AM   #11
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If I'm not mistaken, there is a "powdered" core bullet, made by DRT. Maybe that's what they are referring to?

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Maybe this?

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Maybe this?

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Damn, interesting stuff there.
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Damn, interesting stuff there.
Expensive too!
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Expensive too!
Read up on it a bit, 9mm failed to expand through 7 sheets of OSB board, water jugs etc. ballistics gel though made one hell of a wound channel. I'll stick to my HPs.
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There is no point in manufacturing a round that has "microscopic" particles in it. Each round or fraction thereof has to be large enough to create a temporary stretch cavity and a permanent crush cavity at least 7" deep, preferably 9-11" to produce the trauma to stop an assailant. Microscopic particles would not have any energy to dump into the target and would not create the wound channels needed. Even size #6 or #7 birdshot can fail to stop out of a 12 ga shotgun, and it is several thousand times bigger than "microscopic.". This sounds like european prejudice against any firearm round and I would imagine it was a standard frangible round or a Glaser Safety Slug at best.

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Read up on it a bit, 9mm failed to expand through 7 sheets of OSB board, water jugs etc. ballistics gel though made one hell of a wound channel. I'll stick to my HPs.
Yeah, I have no intention of buying it either.
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I believe that killer was using a Mini-14. In Europe I think they are .222 Rem. caliber, but that round and the U.S. equivalent in .223 Rem. travel at 3,000+ fps at the muzzle. A hollow point or soft tip traveling that fast at impact will shatter into many small pieces.
The newscast I saw said he was using a semi-auto 9MM pistol.
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The newscast I saw said he was using a semi-auto 9MM pistol.
Well, it seems he used both a 9mm Glock pistol and the Mini-14 rifle:

"As he continued his rampage, first with a Glock pistol and then a rifle, he said young people were literally ‘paralysed with fear and begging for their lives’. "

Details of the weapons he obtained:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

and details of the attack with picture of the attacker and his Mini-14:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132656/Anders-Behring-Breivik-trial-Norway-killer-recounts-Utoya-island-massacre-horrifying-detail.html

The guy is nuts for sure!
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Well, it seems he used both a 9mm Glock pistol and the Mini-14 rifle:

"As he continued his rampage, first with a Glock pistol and then a rifle, he said young people were literally ‘paralysed with fear and begging for their lives’. "

Details of the weapons he obtained:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

and details of the attack with picture of the attacker and his Mini-14:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132656/Anders-Behring-Breivik-trial-Norway-killer-recounts-Utoya-island-massacre-horrifying-detail.html

The guy is nuts for sure!
I stand corrected!
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