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starviego 05-07-2012 05:51 AM

What type of bullet causes this kind of damage?
 
The trial of Norway mass killer Anders Breivik is now in its third week. I caught this quote by the autopsy surgeon and I was wondering if anybody has a guess on what type of ammo he was using and if it was 'legal' ammo or some special forces -type round?

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a ftenposten.no%2F
Behring Breivik used three types of ammunition for semi-automatic rifles. Two of ammunition types were designed to create the largest possible damage.
- This creates thousands of tiny metal fragments - that can not be seen with the naked eye, said (Professor Torleiv)Rognum. ... Most victims were hit by 2-3 shots.


A 'frangible' slug comes to mind. Can members of the ammo-buying public even access this kind of stuff?

c3shooter 05-07-2012 07:01 AM

Yes- but the "thousands of particles" is hyperbole.

JonM 05-07-2012 04:50 PM

A lot of doctors especially in europe are anti gun and prefer treating victims of violent crime rather than treating the criminal for gunshot wounds created by the victim.

So every bullet even a pellet from a red ryder bb gun is an explosive frangible tank killing round suitable only for firing at battleships...

locutus 05-07-2012 10:01 PM

Probably just regular hollow points, that the good doctor isn't familiar with since the police and security forces over their use FMJ.

orangello 05-07-2012 10:18 PM

Over here, i believe you can still buy Glazer rounds with lil shot in them, but i didn't know they had microscopic shot available. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/274361/glaser-silver-safety-slug-ammunition-45-acp-p-145-grain-safety-slug-package-of-6?cm_vc=2371BrandPopProd

lbwar15 05-07-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starviego
The trial of Norway mass killer Anders Breivik is now in its third week. I caught this quote by the autopsy surgeon and I was wondering if anybody has a guess on what type of ammo he was using and if it was 'legal' ammo or some special forces -type round?

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a ftenposten.no%2F
Behring Breivik used three types of ammunition for semi-automatic rifles. Two of ammunition types were designed to create the largest possible damage.
- This creates thousands of tiny metal fragments - that can not be seen with the naked eye, said (Professor Torleiv)Rognum. ... Most victims were hit by 2-3 shots.

A 'frangible' slug comes to mind. Can members of the ammo-buying public even access this kind of stuff?

Btw the 12ga pdx1 has a 1oz frangible slug. And yes you can git it at Walmart.

locutus 05-08-2012 02:57 PM

But can you get it at Wal-Mart in Oslo??:D

Snakedriver 05-08-2012 04:02 PM

I believe that killer was using a Mini-14. In Europe I think they are .222 Rem. caliber, but that round and the U.S. equivalent in .223 Rem. travel at 3,000+ fps at the muzzle. A hollow point or soft tip traveling that fast at impact will shatter into many small pieces.

Chainfire 05-08-2012 07:12 PM

They make the microscopic frangibles to fight germs. One round kills more germs than a whole damn bottle of bleach........ and without the nasty smell.

1hole 05-11-2012 11:51 PM

Metal particles too tiny to be seen by eye don't have enough mass to penatrate anything so they can't harm anyone.


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