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barmanvarn 01-16-2013 08:37 PM

What primer to use?
 
Brand new to reloading and I'm still in the research phase, so please be patient while I'm learning. :)

I know that for what I'm reloading first (9mm), I need to use small pistol primer.

My question, other than using the correct type of primer (small/large/etc), does the brand (Federal, Win, CCI, etc) play into the recipe?

I ask because I was researching powder and the recipes listed a specific primer maker for that powder, bullet, and type (9mm). I think it was Winchester in this example, can't remember for sure.

So my question is what if I substitured the Winchester w/ say Federal? Does this alter the recipe?

I'm thinking the answer is no, but I wanted to check w/ the experts.

thanks in advance.

25-5 01-16-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barmanvarn
Brand new to reloading and I'm still in the research phase, so please be patient while I'm learning. :)

I know that for what I'm reloading first (9mm), I need to use small pistol primer.

My question, other than using the correct type of primer (small/large/etc), does the brand (Federal, Win, CCI, etc) play into the recipe?

I ask because I was researching powder and the recipes listed a specific primer maker for that powder, bullet, and type (9mm). I think it was Winchester in this example, can't remember for sure.

So my question is what if I substitured the Winchester w/ say Federal? Does this alter the recipe?

I'm thinking the answer is no, but I wanted to check w/ the experts.

thanks in advance.

CCI are the best IMHO.

25-5 01-16-2013 08:42 PM

There are other threads with a lot of reloading info. Do a forum search. Lots of smart folks here.

barmanvarn 01-16-2013 08:44 PM

Thanks, and I apologize for saying this, but that does not answer my question.

I'm not asking which primer brand is better than the other.

I'm asking if the brand determines the recipe (ie. powder/grains to use for a given bullet).

That being said, I'll keep CCI in mind. :D

barmanvarn 01-16-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 25-5 (Post 1096554)
There are other threads with a lot of reloading info. Do a forum search. Lots of smart folks here.

Thanks. I'm a mod on some other forums (not related to firearms) and I promise I did a search first. I wasn't finding anything that specifically addressed my question. Maybe it's on here somewhere and I could just be blind.

Summary, I did my best to research this before creating a thread.

thanks

Overkill0084 01-16-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barmanvarn (Post 1096549)
Brand new to reloading and I'm still in the research phase, so please be patient while I'm learning. :)

I know that for what I'm reloading first (9mm), I need to use small pistol primer.

My question, other than using the correct type of primer (small/large/etc), does the brand (Federal, Win, CCI, etc) play into the recipe?

I ask because I was researching powder and the recipes listed a specific primer maker for that powder, bullet, and type (9mm). I think it was Winchester in this example, can't remember for sure.

So my question is what if I substitured the Winchester w/ say Federal? Does this alter the recipe?
Theoretically, yes. Most loading data is developed with a specific primer. Some may have bit more "bang" going on than others. Not a huge problem, but when you change primer brands, you should think about redeveloping the load to ensure there is no odd behavior. Especially if you load hot. It's typically not a huge issue, but you shouldn't ignore it either.
Additionally, there are differences in the hardness of the primers themselves. Reputedly Federal are the softest and CCI are the hardest. I did experience light strikes with CCIs in my Colt revolver using CCIs. Most of my revolver loads are done with Federals to alleviate that issue. In anything with a lightened mainspring, you might wish to use softer primers. In an untouched duty type semi auto, I doubt it will ever matter.
I'm thinking the answer is no, but I wanted to check w/ the experts.
thanks in advance.

Of course these days you use what you can get your hands on.
From a quality standpoint, AFAIK, the usual suspects are fine. NOTE: There are some quirks with Remington primers that I don't care for. YMMV.

25-5 01-16-2013 08:53 PM

I have used different primers with same powders or different powders mixed them all. Never any problem. Might get technical for rifle bench rest, but otherwise no worry in performance in 9mm.
Magnum primer are for mags.
You do not need to fret about asking for more specific info.

barmanvarn 01-16-2013 08:59 PM

Thanks to Overkill and 25-5. I think you've answered by question.

Background of why I was asking....I'm getting very close to loading my first rounds and, as you know, components are hard to come by right now and I was getting sick of waiting.

So I found some primers and bought them, but the powder I was looking at used a diff primer in its loading guide.

thanks again for the assistance!

Popeye77 01-16-2013 09:07 PM

If you are starting with a reduced load as you should be, and working up it should be no problem. If you are starting with a maximum recommended load you may have a problem and it might not be the primer. I never change components in a full house load without working up to it. Different firearms can react differently to the same loads. My .02

barmanvarn 01-16-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popeye77 (Post 1096579)
If you are starting with a reduced load as you should be, and working up it should be no problem. If you are starting with a maximum recommended load you may have a problem and it might not be the primer. I never change components in a full house load without working up to it. Different firearms can react differently to the same loads. My .02

Yes, I definately plan on starting w/ a reduced/light load and working my way up.


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