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Old 06-25-2012, 05:57 PM   #11
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If your 1911 extractor is working right there should be very little wear at all from steel case ammo. The case rim should slide up under the extractor hook on a properly radiused and tapered extractor face behind the hook. Once fired the hook just pulls back on the rim.

Now if you try steel cases ammo that doesn't work in your gun you should either not use the ammo or tune the gun to run it.

Tula is some of the lowest quality Russian ammo out there but if it works for you then it is a cheap alternative. I've had better luck with brown bear and silver bear in rifle ammo. Those are loaded at the Barnaul plant that has a bit better rep than the Tula factory for ammo.

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I bought my wife a Savage Edge in .223. I have a feeling she is going to want to shoot the snot out of. Good for her. On Centerfire Systems website I found some really cheap bulk ammo. It is of the Tula brand. There are 5 different selections that come in 1000 round cases.

FMJ, 62 Grain $240
FMJ, 55 Grain $240
HP, 62 Grain $250
HP, 75 Grain $250
HP, 55 Grain $260

It probably is, but the last one (HP-55GR) does not mention being polymer coated. Of these 5 which would be the best to shoot from the bolt gun? Or should I just go for the cheapest? If so, 62 or 55.

The prices seem a little sketchy. For 20 rounds the 55 HP's are cheaper than the 62 and 75; yet at 1000 they are more expensive.

Would either the FMJs or HPs be adequate to hunt with? Down here in Florida the deer are pretty much large dogs. We'll definately be going for neck or head shots if that makes a difference.

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I might suggest skipping the tula for the savage. Every shot in my axis, previously the edge locked up in the chamber upon firing it and required a rubber mallet to the bolt handle to get it out. Remington umc and pmc has some pretty cheap accurate .223 ammo that works great.

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I bought my wife a Savage Edge in .223. I have a feeling she is going to want to shoot the snot out of. Good for her. On Centerfire Systems website I found some really cheap bulk ammo. It is of the Tula brand. There are 5 different selections that come in 1000 round cases.

FMJ, 62 Grain $240
FMJ, 55 Grain $240
HP, 62 Grain $250
HP, 75 Grain $250
HP, 55 Grain $260

It probably is, but the last one (HP-55GR) does not mention being polymer coated. Of these 5 which would be the best to shoot from the bolt gun? Or should I just go for the cheapest? If so, 62 or 55.

The prices seem a little sketchy. For 20 rounds the 55 HP's are cheaper than the 62 and 75; yet at 1000 they are more expensive.

Would either the FMJs or HPs be adequate to hunt with? Down here in Florida the deer are pretty much large dogs. We'll definately be going for neck or head shots if that makes a difference.
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The Russian steel case is excellent practice ammo.

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I might suggest skipping the tula for the savage. Every shot in my axis, previously the edge locked up in the chamber upon firing it and required a rubber mallet to the bolt handle to get it out. Remington umc and pmc has some pretty cheap accurate .223 ammo that works great.

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Im glad you mentioned axis, now Im not sure if its the edge or the axis. Does it matter?

I believe and trust what you are saying. So, for taking that into account, I think I will just buy a 20 round box of each type and see what is compatible with her rifle. I dont want to pass up the chance to be able to use really cheap ammo if it does work, but with your warning I will limit my overall exposure to maybe $30 of possible unusable ammo versus $250. Thank you.
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The Edge is now called the Axis , Same ol girl just a new dress . My buddy has a edge and his is the same deal his fired about 5 rds before it locked up . Maybe it will shoot from yours , I would try it for sure because you never know but just a heads up go buy 4-5 boxs of it and see if it will work before you buy 1000 rds and cant use them . , If it does lock up no biggy a few taps with a rubber mallet will get it out . My AR's eat Tula up but not my bolt gun .

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What would cause the bolt gun to gum up, but not the AR. I figured the bolt rifle would be able to feed a larger variety of rounds.

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What would cause the bolt gun to gum up, but not the AR. I figured the bolt rifle would be able to feed a larger variety of rounds.
Brass expands and contracts in the chamber the steel does not ,it just expands and swells in the chamber . Nothing really gumming it up
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