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Old 05-08-2012, 05:25 PM   #1
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okay, at least im ahead of the game here. i have 40 .40 s&W rounds loaded. one of which lacks almost all the powder. i had my son helping me and he spilled one of the casings, didnt inform me, and loaded the bullet. i saw the pile of powder near the end of the 50 rounds. so the last 10 i did and set aside. so that leaves me with 40 rounds. i measured the powder and it was almost exactly my charge weight. so like i said at least i know i have a dud. but now how to find it. i really dont want to lose all 40 bullets. the casings powder an primers are cheap enough but my hornady bullets are not. lol

i dont have a bullet puller, as of yet

i tried to weigh a couple other rounds i knew were loaded correctly. i assume due to brass sizing, the difference in weight between 2 100 percent good rounds was well over my charge weight. leaving me to think weighing them all still might not be correct.

thought about shooting 1 at a time and if the bullet got stuck in the barrel get it out that way. but im not fond of that idea.

any thoughts? do i need to suck it up and buy a bullet puller? if so, which one?

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JJ, you might want to go ahead and pull the bullets and visually check to find the one missing it's powder charge. that way you would know for sure. i thought about weghing the loaded ammo, but if there is a difference in case weight, it could give a false reading. you might try one of the inertia bullet pullers. i just got one the other day because in a moment of haste, i charged and seated bullets in some rifle cases, but somehow forgot to seat primers in them!

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Sorry, bro- you need a bullet puller. You were going to get one anyway, right? You will save all components, including the bullets.

http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/pid=34107/Product/Quinetics-Bullet-Puller

Powder weight is SO small, it will be hidden by variations in the brass. And you look like a goof with the cartridge in your ear, shaking your head to see if you can hear the powder in the case.

Just do not ask how I know that, OK?

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Dumb question from non-reloader, but can't you just shake them and listen for powder shaking around in there like a mini-moroco (or whatever they call those things).

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Sorry, bro- you need a bullet puller. You were going to get one anyway, right? You will save all components, including the bullets.

http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/pid=34107/Product/Quinetics-Bullet-Puller

Powder weight is SO small, it will be hidden by variations in the brass. And you look like a goof with the cartridge in your ear, shaking your head to see if you can hear the powder in the case.

Just do not ask how I know that, OK?
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Dumb question from non-reloader, but can't you just shake them and listen for powder shaking around in there like a mini-moroco (or whatever they call those things).
In some cases yes, if you're really lucky. Others, not so much. There just isn't much room in there for powder to move around. Even if it does, light flakey powders (Unique, HS-6) won't make much noise. Heck, dense powders aren't much better, I can't hear Accurate #5 in my .40 loads, and it's like dense sand.. I suppose if you have spectacular bat-like hearing give it a try. I know I couldn't hear squat when I've tried it. 21 years around jet noise pretty much ensured that.
Always err on the side of safety with stuff like this.
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Everybody who has been reloading for awhile has a bullet puller. There's no shame.

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Maybe those new "backscatter" scanners at the airport could detect the difference?

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Maybe those new "backscatter" scanners at the airport could detect the difference?
That would be fun to watch.
"Excuse me Mr. TSA guy, can you please scan this box of ammo for me?"
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Get one of the press mounted collet pullers.. you should be able to pull the bullet without dumping out the rounds that are full of powder... They cost twice as much, but I like them better.... (about $20 for a RCBS one + you have to buy the collet for what ever caliber bullet your pulling)
I just have the "hammer" type puller, but like my friends press one better, for the reason I said above..

You should be able to see what round is low on powder, and just reseat the rest.. But then it might be a good idea to reweigh all the rounds... Better safe than sorry!!!

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That would be fun to watch.
"Excuse me Mr. TSA guy, can you please scan this box of ammo for me?"
no sir Mr TSA agent, i'm not boarding a plane today, i just need this ammo scanned to make sure that i put powder in them!

but only after a full body cavity search, sir, please bend over, while i put this glove on!
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