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Old 02-14-2011, 02:03 AM   #11
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if you are worried about over penetration get a shotgun loaded with birdshot and forget it.

buck, slug, rifle and handgun rounds will go right though walls. most handgun rounds will penetrate more than a .223 round as well.

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Old 02-14-2011, 02:05 AM   #12
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52 or 40 grain hp would pretty much eliminate over penetration issues. 12ga shotgun using bb shot is the ideal home defense load. even worse case but your gonna need a slow twist in the 1in12 range to prevent the bullet from disintegrating as it leaves the muzzle. a load of shot from a short barrel pump like a mossberg 590 goes unimpeeded out a open door it wont go throuh the neighbor's walls. slugs are poor SD home loads due to extreme overpenetration.

with carbine pistol rounds your getting higher fps than out of a pistol so your actually getting more over penetration issues.

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Jon, I've personally shot a 40 gr vmax through 1/8" steel and two layers of 1/2" sheetrock.

There's no magic weight to prevent overpenetration.

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I'm looking to keep a magazine of reliable .223/5.56 ammo in my new AR at home. What would you suggest for self defense ammo?

My gunsmith just said I should buy soft point or something. I was wondering what brand I should buy as well and bullet grain, etc.

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Just my opinion but any AR round is a poor choice for inside the home defense. The sheer velocity of the round almost guarantees multiple wall penetration regardless of bullet weight. I have to cast my lot with the shotgun crowd on this one.

If you are really uncertain about your ability to effectively use your handgun in a HD situation I would suggest some training and lots of practice. Don't make a poor choice in using the AR to compensate for inadequate handgun skills, fix the real problem.
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I'd just about prefer a baseball bat over a rifle for home defense. I've got a Mossberg 12 ga pump with full stock and cut barrel for in/near the house.

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I wish I knew who made the rounds I bought. I picked them up at my dealer and they are .225 frangible rounds.

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Back on the subject of pistol carbines...

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