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fmj 10-10-2011 06:31 PM

Stupid question from a newb reloader
 
OK, when i started reloading i started with .357...i screwed up a bunch of bullets. either seating too deep or having my crimp die set wrong and causing the case to "accordian". I didnt like the results i got when i finally did manage to make some good rounds.

Well i had set aside the my earlier failings. Today i went down and pulled the bullets and reclaimed the powder. Being a frugal kinda guy, my question for the more knowledgable reloaders here is, is there a way for me to reclaim the primers from the casings? Or will my decapping die set off the primer or make it inert?

c3shooter 10-10-2011 08:00 PM

Decapping will pop the primer in most cases. Sorry, but think they are gone.

fmj 10-10-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 598251)
Decapping will pop the primer in most cases. Sorry, but think they are gone.

yeah i figured as much...but thought i would ask....more of that silly "beer bottle half full" mentality.

Thanks anywho.

JonM 10-11-2011 02:42 AM

you definately dont want to decap a live primer. blow just one (almost a certainty to happen) and you prolly just ruined a pricy sizing die... not cost effective.

that is of course taking into account you dont spend some time and money in the ER

Axxe55 10-11-2011 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JonM (Post 598583)
you definately dont want to decap a live primer. blow just one (almost a certainty to happen) and you prolly just ruined a pricy sizing die... not cost effective.

that is of course taking into account you dont spend some time and money in the ER

i agree with Jon on this, don't try to decap a live primer. if the case is already ruined, just throw the whole thing away after salvaging the bullet and powder. i did the same thing to some of my first 44 specials i reloaded. i forgot to bevel the case inside with the case mouth tool!

noylj 10-12-2011 12:49 PM

Time in an ER for a PRIMER? The decapping pin is pushing it out and any bang will go down to the spent primer area and have no effect on the sizing die. Seems like a lot of overly cautious folks here that have never had a primer go off.
I have NEVER in 45 years of reloading had a primer go off while decapping. IF you slammed the die down as fast and hard as you can, I still doubt it will go off.
Also, so what if one goes off? It makes a bang sound, but you are wearing eye protection and hearing protections just is case, right?
If it goes off, it would propel itself into your spent primer tube or whatever.
I have "recycled" many primers from my errors or from rounds I that my shooting indicated may be too near max or beyond. Never had any problem reusing them.
Hope you now know how to set-up the expander, seating, and crimp dies.
The "dangerout" primer bang is where the primer falls out of the primer slider on a progressive and gets slammed between the primer slide and the primer seating stem. There is a faint possibility of the anvil flying loose and going who knows where. Even if it does hit you (you are still wearing safety glasses, righrt?), it MIGHT scratch your skin and draw a little blood. This is NOT a stick of dynamite. The two times I have had a primer go off, the anvil stayed in and the primer was still cruched between the two parts.

Axxe55 10-12-2011 01:02 PM

noylj, having never had one go off is just being lucky, and at one point you might not be so lucky. some primers have enough force to cause serious bodily damage, enough to maybe put an eye out. and just because you have been lucky, doesn't mean it's safe. many books on reloading tell you not to decap a live primer. now why would they mention this, unless there is a safety concern. giving wrong advise is dangerous, especially to someone new to reloading!

JonM 10-12-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by noylj (Post 599683)
Time in an ER for a PRIMER? The decapping pin is pushing it out and any bang will go down to the spent primer area and have no effect on the sizing die. Seems like a lot of overly cautious folks here that have never had a primer go off.
I have NEVER in 45 years of reloading had a primer go off while decapping. IF you slammed the die down as fast and hard as you can, I still doubt it will go off.
Also, so what if one goes off? It makes a bang sound, but you are wearing eye protection and hearing protections just is case, right?
If it goes off, it would propel itself into your spent primer tube or whatever.
I have "recycled" many primers from my errors or from rounds I that my shooting indicated may be too near max or beyond. Never had any problem reusing them.
Hope you now know how to set-up the expander, seating, and crimp dies.
The "dangerout" primer bang is where the primer falls out of the primer slider on a progressive and gets slammed between the primer slide and the primer seating stem. There is a faint possibility of the anvil flying loose and going who knows where. Even if it does hit you (you are still wearing safety glasses, righrt?), it MIGHT scratch your skin and draw a little blood. This is NOT a stick of dynamite. The two times I have had a primer go off, the anvil stayed in and the primer was still cruched between the two parts.

Just remember good ole uncle murphy is a damn fine shot. Just cuz it can be done doesnt mean its a safe thing or a good practice. I can work on the engine of my car while its running but is it a good idea??

Do you realllllly want to give a new loader this sort of advice then come back and read a post by his loved one telling us what happened and why that person wont be back.

Most accidents involving injury arent just one thing going wrong but a series of bad decisions and bad practices going wrong at once. The simplest way to minimize or eliminate risk when doing things is to not do something that is self evident to be a bad idea.

Take one link out and the chain breaks.

Axxe55 10-12-2011 02:19 PM

well said JonM. like my father use to say, " if all else fails, read the directions " . seems like good advise when reloading components with the capability to do bodily harm!

rjd3282 10-12-2011 05:53 PM

Have any of you ever loaded with the old lee loader? You know the thing where you use a mallet to seat primers? They go off frequently and it doesn't hurt at all. Scares the hell out of you but causes no damage. I'm not telling anyone to deprime live primers it's their decision but I have to agree that it isn't much of a big deal I've done it thousands of times and never had one go off.

I use progressive press and I make sure the primer tube is empty and the powder measure is removed just in case but like I said after all this time and thousands of primers it has never set one off.


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