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Old 08-12-2009, 04:52 PM   #1
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I've noticed there are mixed opinions of Rifle Ammunition imported from Russia. I've seen reviews that say that this kind of ammunition is "too dirty", this ammunition "makes my gun jam, and it doesn't feed right", the quality of the ammunition is poor "cartridges just fell apart after it came in the mail", and more.

I personally have had somewhat success shooting it through my .308 WIN CETME rifle. By my experience I'm not sure of the overall accuracy because I shot about 20 rounds in an indoor range that went up to 25 yards. The rounds did seem a bit dirtier than usual, but that could just be because of the delayed blowback the CETME has.

What's everyones take on generally imported Russian ammunition here?

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Old 08-12-2009, 05:56 PM   #2
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Under normal circumstances I will not use steel cased ammo in guns that were not designed for it. The SKS and AK work just fine with such ammo.

The CETME was designed for the thick brass cased NATO ammo. I have way too much money invested in the HK and CETME to risk using cheap ammo.

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Isn't some of that surplus ammo labeled "corrosive"? I don't even put that in my SKS; i think it requires a bit more cleaning & more promptly. Brown bear is as dirty as i'll go & that is in an SKS, not an expensive rifle.

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Most of the ammo I get is off of CheaperThanDirt.com and all the Russian ammo I see on there claim they are non-corrosive. I honestly haven't shot Silver Bear (steel) through my CETME, but I have shot the Brass bullets, and they seem to have great performance. I assume that these rounds and Russian rounds are dirtier in general, but it's hard for me to tell because my CETME gets dirty after use due to it's Blowback. I've seen alot of reviews on this kind of ammo that people claim it's dirty.

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You would be wise to consider any ammo that originates from behind the former steel curtain (not Pittsburg) to be at least mildly corrosive. Corrosive is not a huge deal, just clean it thoroughly ASAP. Corrosive primers seem to have a longer shelf life than others.

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Good point. I can't be completely sure of that ammo. I always clean my gun the same day I shoot it. Indeed it is dirtier ammo, and I personally think that that ammo has high performance at a cheap price.

I didn't think of the corrosive ammo lasting longer on the shelf.

How long does a typical round of ammo last anyways?

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Good point. I can't be completely sure of that ammo. I always clean my gun the same day I shoot it. Indeed it is dirtier ammo, and I personally think that that ammo has high performance at a cheap price.

I didn't think of the corrosive ammo lasting longer on the shelf.

How long does a typical round of ammo last anyways?
75 to 100 years......... Really ammo may have a longer shelf life than we do.
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Anything named after an animal is dirty. Wolf, Golden Tiger, Silver Bear, Brown Bear, etcetera, will function in AKs, SKSs, just fine.

If you have a torture test gun, Glock, XD, etcetera, again, functions just fine.

Surplus, as others have said, is almost always corrosive. Depending on the caliber, alot of it is loaded a hair hotter than commercial stuff.

Lacquer is an enemy. Lacquer coating, while protecting the round past the end times, heats up and eventually gums up. Often times a b***h to get out of your gun.

If you shoot, you can't beat the price.

Wolf, while filthy, goes bang and is alot of fun, and mostly reliable, too.

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Break down and buy some quality american made .308 and run an accuracy comparison. You will soon discover why anything made in Russia or third world country's is cheap. I would never put that garbage through any of my guns except for my SKS, which is cheap and inaccurate and perfectly suited for cheap inaccurate ammo!

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Anything named after an animal is dirty. Wolf, Golden Tiger, Silver Bear, Brown Bear, etcetera, will function in AKs, SKSs, just fine.

If you have a torture test gun, Glock, XD, etcetera, again, functions just fine.

Surplus, as others have said, is almost always corrosive. Depending on the caliber, alot of it is loaded a hair hotter than commercial stuff.

Lacquer is an enemy. Lacquer coating, while protecting the round past the end times, heats up and eventually gums up. Often times a b***h to get out of your gun.

If you shoot, you can't beat the price.

Wolf, while filthy, goes bang and is alot of fun, and mostly reliable, too.
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