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Old 10-22-2012, 05:42 PM   #1
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Im getting into reloading my mil-surps, I am going to play a little with loadings and different bullets, but for the most part right now I want to replicate the military rounds as they were during the rifle was in service...

Whats the best powder to use in a variety of old mil-sups?
I got some IMR-4895 (that was the US military powder wasnt it?), and some RL-15 (I think thats the current powder for the .308 M118 "sniper" round)

Does anybody know what powders various countrys used? Like the Russians and Japanese during WWII?

How about loadings for 6.5, 7.7 Jap, 7.62x54r, and most importantly M2 .30-06 (My 1903 was tackdriver with Greek "HXP" surplus, and see no reason to change from those specs..)

Added:How about M2 AP?


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Imr 4895 was a military powder for the .30cal m2 (30-06). I believe imr 4064 was one as well. When I'm loading for my garand I use the minimum charge. Shoots and cycles fine. Nothing violent. This is what I go by. It's from hodgdons website.

150 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4895 .308" 3.250" 49.0 2856 49,400 PSI 53.0 3009 56,700 PSI


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IMR means "Improved Military Round", so that should tell you something. Also, Hodgdon H335 is the non-military version of what is commonly used for 5.56. I forget the military powder though (help me out here?) a buddy of mine got a couple of jugs of the milsurp stuff and it worked great for him, but he had to adjust it down a couple of grains? I use the IMR 4895 for my Garand and 1903 loads exclusively.
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IMR is Imroved Military Rifle.
'The Japanese and Russians used God knows what powder.
Try finding cordite for .303 Brit.
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IMR is Imroved Military Rifle.
Duh! What was I thinking? I stand corrected.
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I've been replicating military ammo for 45+ years.

4895 and 4064 for the .30-06, and and the foreign rounds, and H335 for 5.56 and 7.62.

BTW, Remington 9 1/2 large rifle primers, and 7 1/2 small rifle primers meet Milspec.
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Found this.... http://www.ar15.com/content/manuals/TM43-0001-27.pdf


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