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Old 12-01-2012, 11:43 PM   #11
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Closest thing I found was in the Lyman 49th edition: 130 grain fmj 3.9 gr. of 231 min. and 4.4 gr. of 231 max.

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I have a box of X-treme bullets 9mm - 135gr RNFP - basically copper plated lead. I have on hand Winchester 231. In all my books I cannot find a recipe for this combination. Win231 is not even mentioned in heavier bullets, so maybe the 135gr is to heavy for the Win231. I think the 231 is a fairly fast burning powder. Any ideas other than going to v-3N37 or something along those lines. I just don't want to purchase more powder.
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It is a fast burner. I've had much better velocities with HS-6, Herco, AAC# 7, and Power Pistol.

All of my "favorite" loads in 9MM, .38 special, .40 and .45 use HS-6.
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If you are loading a bunch of different calibers, Dillon is the way to go. The 550 can handle anything from .25 ACP to .458 Win Mag and maybe longer. I load .32 ACP to .30-06 on my 450 w/o any problems.

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My experience in life (64 years of it) tells me to buy the best I can affort even if I need to make the purchase a few parts at a time. I use a Dillon RB550B and just love it. I know everyone has their own favorite press and that's fine. Need to use what works best for you. A lot of gun stores in our area do some reloading in the back. Ask if they do and if so see if they will let you try it out. Look for features. When you start getting into this hobby you start to learned what works for you. With the Dillon I can use Hornady, Lee, RCBS etc. dies. This press is not indexed, the Dillon is a progressive loaded that must be rotated from station to station manually. You can see my set up on the reloading bench thread about page 16 or so. Just posted the photos today. Good luck and have fun, this hobby is really a blast. (pun intended)
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9x19, 135gn
231/HP38: start 3.5, Max 4.5
Min. COL 1.142

1) All presses, except the Dillon SDB, will load all calibers (not counting .50 BMG and such). Dillon has NO specialty there.
2) The 550B will always be a crippled press. No auto-index and too few stations. If that is all you need or want, great. However, when making the recommendation to someone who doesn't know all the differences, always mention at least those limits. Just like for the SDB, you must always mention proprietary dies so there is no flexibility in set-up.
3) Best is to always load standard plated like lead, and only move up NO MORE THAN mid-range jacketed, AFTER working up the lead loads. In general, this won't be an issue as the max load for lead will also be close to the mid-range jacketed load (or even the max jacketed load). Don't think of them as jacketed, but as lead bullets with a metallic lube.

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Why would you recommend only mid-range for jacketed???

My jacketed loads, loaded on the 650 literally by the tens of thousands, have been slowly and carefully worked up to maximum

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What we have here is a failure to comminicate.
Dear Locutus:
I was clearly writing about PLATED bullets.

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