Reloading For 45/70 Government - Page 2
You are Unregistered, please register to use all of the features of FirearmsTalk.com!    
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Gear & Accessories > Ammunition & Reloading >

Reloading For 45/70 Government


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-07-2012, 05:44 PM   #11
Lifetime Supporting Member
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains,CA
Posts: 14,922
Liked 9088 Times on 5276 Posts
Likes Given: 11970

Default

Just got off the phone with the smith, picked up the rifle yesterday and he had already left for the day. Anyhow, he was unable to remove the fore end cap and so could not remove the magazine and clean it thoroughly because he was afraid of damaging it but he was certain that it was going to be OK judging from the condition of the rest of the gun. He couldn't stop saying how impressed he is with it, he said he would love to own it himself. He has some websites that deal specifically with the older Winchesters and cowboy action he is going to email me when he gets home, said it would be a great pig gun once I get a load worked up for it. It is, in his words, in "unbelievably excellent condition".

I do believe that I now have a new favorite gun- pending some range time with it. I'll keep you posted.
Vikingdad is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 06:00 PM   #12
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: The Edge of Darkness
Posts: 6,495
Liked 4797 Times on 2683 Posts
Likes Given: 1736

Default

Any one who likes fine vintage firearms wants to own an orginal Mdl.1886. The one you have is a special order not just off the shelf. Were you able to remove the magazine cap screw? You mentioned the forearm screw not a problem. Every man is allowed one fine dog and one good gun deal in a life time. You can now start looking for the dog.
nitestalker is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 05:19 AM   #13
Lifetime Supporting Member
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains,CA
Posts: 14,922
Liked 9088 Times on 5276 Posts
Likes Given: 11970

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nitestalker View Post
Any one who likes fine vintage firearms wants to own an orginal Mdl.1886. The one you have is a special order not just off the shelf. Were you able to remove the magazine cap screw? You mentioned the forearm screw not a problem. Every man is allowed one fine dog and one good gun deal in a life time. You can now start looking for the dog.
I do own a couple of "vintage" guns (a 1903 and a Garand being the notable ones) but this is my first pre-1900 gun. I am indeed very fortunate to have come across it and even more so for the fact that it was within my reach financially. I could never afford it for what it is really worth. The smith was just absolutely taken by it and said he was hoping I would call him to talk about it. As I was picking it up two other customers came up and were risking damaging it what with all of their drooling. This definitely was one of my "dream guns".

I did ask the smith about it and he said he was afraid of either stripping it or that it has already been stripped and he didn't want to risk making it worse. I have not had the time to look at it myself yet out in the shop with my gunsmithing tools, magnifying glasses and all of that stuff. The way I understood it he could get the end cap off but could not remove the tube or the follower because the forestock screw passes through a slot in the mag tube and you have to rotate the mag tube to disengage it from the receiver. Or something like that.

I did pick up a can of Trail Boss today, and I dug out some of the bullets I have- but I didn't find the cast lead ones I was looking for to see what weight they are. The ones I pulled out are Speer 400 grain flat nose jacketed soft point, and Hornady #4502 350 grain round nose soft point jacketed. I have probably a dozen more different designs but those two were all I could pull out of where I have them stored. I will probably be able to look more tomorrow.
Vikingdad is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 05:31 AM   #14
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: The Edge of Darkness
Posts: 6,495
Liked 4797 Times on 2683 Posts
Likes Given: 1736

Default

No need to remove the magazine tube. Remove the magazine tube screw and cap under the rifles muzzle. Remove the spring and follower and clean the tube and follower and spring. If the tube is dented or the follower is dented tube dirty broken spring the magazine will stick.

If you shoot the rifles check the follower before you load the magazine. If the magazine fails to feed a loaded Ctg. you must be able to remove the magazine cap and spring and follower to unload the rifle.
nitestalker is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 05:46 AM   #15
Lifetime Supporting Member
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains,CA
Posts: 14,922
Liked 9088 Times on 5276 Posts
Likes Given: 11970

Default

OK. Will do. Thanks.
Vikingdad is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 03:30 PM   #16
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
locutus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 11,719
Liked 8195 Times on 4478 Posts
Likes Given: 7976

Default

A little trick I learned.

When charging powder, hold the case hard against your vibratory tumbler while trickling in the charge. vyou can get more powder in it that way.

Not important with smokeless, but it helps with black.
__________________
I didn't fight to defend your freedom so you could vote to take away mine.
locutus is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 06:39 AM   #17
Lifetime Supporting Member
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains,CA
Posts: 14,922
Liked 9088 Times on 5276 Posts
Likes Given: 11970

Default

Reviving this thread. In my bullet mold collection I found a Lyman 457193- casts a flat nose 405 grain bullet. Anybody have any loads for that bullet that I can fool around with? I know I have several other .458" molds in storage. I wish there was some sort of organization to my storage!
Vikingdad is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2012, 01:53 PM   #18
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JonM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Rochester WI,Rochester WI
Posts: 19,268
Liked 6820 Times on 3623 Posts
Likes Given: 513

Default

Ive got a few ill postsome later after ive fully gotten the day started.
__________________
"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." L. Neil Smith

The problem with being stupid is you cannot simply decide to stop doing dumb things...

"I crapped my pants to avoid the draft!!" -Ted Nugent
JonM is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 12:49 AM   #19
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JonM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Rochester WI,Rochester WI
Posts: 19,268
Liked 6820 Times on 3623 Posts
Likes Given: 513

Default

im using 48 grains of imr3031 under a 405 grain lead bullet coal 2.530. this is a great load in my marlin 1895gbl 16" barrel. recoil is pretty stiff in the short barrel. 49 grains is listed as max.

im using the complete reloading manual for the 45-70 http://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/23943/catid/11/The_Complete_Reloading_Manual_for_a__45_70
__________________
"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." L. Neil Smith

The problem with being stupid is you cannot simply decide to stop doing dumb things...

"I crapped my pants to avoid the draft!!" -Ted Nugent
JonM is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2012, 09:46 PM   #20
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
locutus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 11,719
Liked 8195 Times on 4478 Posts
Likes Given: 7976

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonM View Post
im using 48 grains of imr3031 under a 405 grain lead bullet coal 2.530. this is a great load in my marlin 1895gbl 16" barrel. recoil is pretty stiff in the short barrel. 49 grains is listed as max.

im using the complete reloading manual for the 45-70 http://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/23943/catid/11/The_Complete_Reloading_Manual_for_a__45_70

I've used 45 grains of 3031 under a 385 grain cast GC. A little easier on the shoulder.
__________________
I didn't fight to defend your freedom so you could vote to take away mine.
locutus is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Built A reloading bench and i am reloading now CAR Ammunition & Reloading 19 08-03-2012 04:55 AM
Should our government be the only ones allowed to have this? opaww Legal and Activism 11 07-20-2012 09:03 PM
Government GPS Tracking Vikingdad Politics, Religion and Controversy 0 11-08-2011 07:32 PM
45-70 Government 250 GR MONOFLEX Marlin General Rifle Discussion 1 01-22-2011 05:06 PM
say what you want about our government... roosterjuicer The Club House 7 04-08-2009 11:32 PM



Newest Threads