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dgray64 04-02-2013 04:35 AM

A question and a point
 
The question is: is anyone finding bullets our there to reload? Powder is getting scarce around here, and primers are not often found. Are you reverting to making your own bullets?

The point is that it's said the the government purchase of 1.6 million or so rounds has overwhelmed production. They talk about buying 9mm, .308, 556 and .40 S&W. If that's the case, where are all the .22's, 38's, .357, .357 Sig, and .45? The government seems to be trying to control guns by removing our ammo. I even went to Berry Bullet to find some ammo, and they have NONE. They make the stuff. Sorry about the rant. I'm just reading a book now called, "Enemies Foreign and Domestic", by Mathew Bracken. I'm not sure what year it was written, but it sure sounds like it could be today.

Dave

aandabooks 04-02-2013 12:37 PM

I get my lead bullets from these guys via my LGS. We live close enough that he buys 2,000-3,000lbs at a time and drives to pick them up. He saves by buying in bulk and I buy by the 500 count box.

http://shop.snscasting.com/main.sc

They seem to have decent shipping rates.

lbwar15 04-02-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgray64
The question is: is anyone finding bullets our there to reload? Powder is getting scarce around here, and primers are not often found. Are you reverting to making your own bullets?

The point is that it's said the the government purchase of 1.6 million or so rounds has overwhelmed production. They talk about buying 9mm, .308, 556 and .40 S&W. If that's the case, where are all the .22's, 38's, .357, .357 Sig, and .45? The government seems to be trying to control guns by removing our ammo. I even went to Berry Bullet to find some ammo, and they have NONE. They make the stuff. Sorry about the rant. I'm just reading a book now called, "Enemies Foreign and Domestic", by Mathew Bracken. I'm not sure what year it was written, but it sure sounds like it could be today.

Dave

Well the government is buying all the 9mm .308, .40, 5.56. And probably a lot of .45 (the marines new 1911)

Everyone elts is buying all the other stuff.

dgray64 04-02-2013 05:42 PM

Thanks. I have been buying lead bullets from Missouri Bullet (www.missouribullet.com). They are a great product that used to ship fast, but now he's behind and is stating up front that the wait may be three weeks.

I'm not sure about "the rest of us buying up the rest of the ammo, as the shelves of the big name stores have been bare for some time now. Isn't funny how the government bought all that ammo, but the the military can't have any of it.

Dave

locutus 04-02-2013 07:31 PM

Components are scarce due to demand. give it 9-12 months and they will be back to normal. Just like in 1994.

The government purchasing is having no effect whatsoever on anyone other than frightened conspiracy nuts.

Far too many folks are trying to stock up a "lifetime supply" because they've been frightened by a fear monger on the radio telling them that ammo is going to be outlawed very soon.

spottedpony 04-02-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dgray64 (Post 1200178)
The question is: is anyone finding bullets our there to reload? Powder is getting scarce around here, and primers are not often found. Are you reverting to making your own bullets?

The point is that it's said the the government purchase of 1.6 million or so rounds has overwhelmed production. They talk about buying 9mm, .308, 556 and .40 S&W. If that's the case, where are all the .22's, 38's, .357, .357 Sig, and .45? The government seems to be trying to control guns by removing our ammo. I even went to Berry Bullet to find some ammo, and they have NONE. They make the stuff. Sorry about the rant. I'm just reading a book now called, "Enemies Foreign and Domestic", by Mathew Bracken. I'm not sure what year it was written, but it sure sounds like it could be today.

Dave

From browsing the sporting goods websites, even bullet casting supplies and equipment is hard to find. Checking fleabay what casting tools listed are selling for highly inflated prices like everything else.

Regarding the government purchase of ammo, the news article I read a couple months ago stated something like 4.5 million rounds of the various calibers, of course officially listed as "for the various government agencies" use.

While i've seen no suggestions that the gov. ammo purchase was intended to deplete and help control the ammo market it does make one wonder.....

Sniper03 04-02-2013 07:52 PM

As Louctus stated. Regarding the government I did some reliable source research on the issue being very skeptical about the government and what is going on. Since I too had concerns about what I had heard, read and wondered why the high demand for government ammunition orders. I now know for a fact one government agency alone uses almost a half million rounds (500,000) per year to put all of their people through one year of training courses and qualifications. That is just one agency of many! In addition a good friend at an executive level with a well known ammunition manufacturing corporation advised the government has been ordering about the same every year for the past several. He also stated that they do not see the light at the end of the tunnel regarding orders including government, retailers and gun shops. People are just flat hording ammunition. I ran into a guy the other morning at Walmart. He advised that is the first thing he does every morning is to go around to all the possible ammunition sources in the area which from what he told me was about a 20 Mile radius from the Walmart store we were at and checks for ammunition every day! He probably is hording as well as selling it at a good mark up to those wanting ammunition. Some of these people are making a living for doing that very thing. And I am sure he is not the only one doing this! It is crazy and not helping when it comes to the regular shooter or hunter.

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dgray64 04-03-2013 12:23 AM

I've heard that too, but it doesn't always ring true. Now some socialist in Connecticut is proposing a permit to buy ammo, while another has put forth a bill to require gun buyers/owners to buy liability insurance. To top it off, Obama just signed the UN Small Arms Treaty. Luckily, it has to be ratified by congress, but it seems like suddenly, we are not "represented", but regulated. Too bad.

Dave

robocop10mm 04-03-2013 02:32 PM

Here we go again with the conspiracy. Government agencies are NOT buying ammo at a significantly higher rate than years past. CIVILIANS are buying ammo at a much higher rate. People who shoot a few hundred rounds a year are stockpiling thousands of rounds. The panic in the civilian arena is the cause for the shortage. This is no different that the panics from recent history (going back to pre Y2K).

Ammunition manufacturers are producing millions of rounds/week. Many are running 24/7 operations. Components are in short supply also from the panic. The guy who loads a few hundred rounds of ammo a year now "needs" to have 10,000 primers on hand? It is just silly. The production pipeline is maxed out. The store shelves are bare, but people's store rooms are over stocked.


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