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LMS_Tactical 09-30-2010 10:35 PM

Question about decapping .40 cal brass
 
hello. I am in the process of decapping .40 cal brass and I seem to be having trouble. I have to cycle the press twice on 90% of the cases in order to get the old primer to pop out. I am new to this and perhaps I dont have the resizer seated propperly. I have adjusted it three times according to the nstructions and I am afraid that if i get it to tight, I will snap the pin. I am using a single stage RCBS. Any thoughts will be appreciated.

hunter Joe 09-30-2010 11:43 PM

What brand brass are you using? By the way, welcome to the forum.

robocop10mm 10-01-2010 12:08 AM

I have this happen more often with .40 brass than any other. I am not sure what the cause is. Make sure your sizing die is set so it nearly touches the shel holder. Set the die, size a case with out a primer in it. Adjust the decapping rod deep enough the pin lock nut (or shoulder on the new style die) just touches the inside baase of the case. Back the decapping rod 1-11/2 turns (or retract the rod about 1/16" on the newer dies)

LMS_Tactical 10-01-2010 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunter Joe (Post 360640)
What brand brass are you using? By the way, welcome to the forum.

American Eagle... federal.

LMS_Tactical 10-01-2010 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robocop10mm (Post 360654)
I have this happen more often with .40 brass than any other. I am not sure what the cause is. Make sure your sizing die is set so it nearly touches the shel holder. Set the die, size a case with out a primer in it. Adjust the decapping rod deep enough the pin lock nut (or shoulder on the new style die) just touches the inside baase of the case. Back the decapping rod 1-11/2 turns (or retract the rod about 1/16" on the newer dies)

Thank you for the advice. I will do as you suggest and let you know how that worked out. Much appreciated :)

LMS_Tactical 10-01-2010 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunter Joe (Post 360640)
What brand brass are you using? By the way, welcome to the forum.

P.S. Thank you for the warm welcome. I appreciate it. Looking around... it seems to be a great forum. I can't wait to get deeper into it.

cpttango30 10-01-2010 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robocop10mm (Post 360654)
I have this happen more often with .40 brass than any other. I am not sure what the cause is. Make sure your sizing die is set so it nearly touches the shel holder. Set the die, size a case with out a primer in it. Adjust the decapping rod deep enough the pin lock nut (or shoulder on the new style die) just touches the inside baase of the case. Back the decapping rod 1-11/2 turns (or retract the rod about 1/16" on the newer dies)

Exactly what I was going to say. Dang you Robo....

noylj 10-02-2010 12:53 AM

Per Hornady:
Before using your new dies, disassemble and carefully clean
the inside surface of the sizing and seating dies (and the
expander die if a three-die set.)
Inspect all cartridge cases and discard those with cracks,
splits and other visible defects. Wipe cases clean with a soft
cloth to remove grit and other foreign matter which may
scratch the die.
ADJUSTING THE SIZE DIE
To adjust the expander/decap assembly:
1. Loosen the spindle lock.
2. Adjust the spindle so approximately 3/16"
of the decap pin is below the end of the die
(Ed: insert empty case in shell holder/shellplate. Raise ram so case enters die. Wiggle the decapping stem if it doesn't enter the flash hole. Primer should pop out. If not, lower ram and turn the decapping stem in until primer is ejected. Raise ram and lock the decapping stem and the resizing die.)
3. Tighten the spindle lock. If not tightened sufficiently, the spindle will
back out the top of the die when deprimed, or it will pull out of the die
when the ram is lowered. If the spindle is adjusted too high, the primer
may not be expelled and a new primer cannot be seated.
To adjust the full-length size die, follow these steps:
1. Raise the press ram to highest position without camming over.
2. Thread the full-length die into the press until the base touches the
shell holder head.
3. Tighten the lock ring against the press and tighten the set screw
with the allen wrench.
4. Adjust the expander/decap assembly.
3/16"
This applies to all normal sizing dies. I have heard that some people sharpeded the decapper pin tip to improve things. I would have expected to flatten the tip to improve things.

Overkill0084 10-02-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noylj (Post 361276)
Per Hornady:
Before using your new dies, disassemble and carefully clean
the inside surface of the sizing and seating dies (and the
expander die if a three-die set.)
Inspect all cartridge cases and discard those with cracks,
splits and other visible defects. Wipe cases clean with a soft
cloth to remove grit and other foreign matter which may
scratch the die.
ADJUSTING THE SIZE DIE
To adjust the expander/decap assembly:
1. Loosen the spindle lock.
2. Adjust the spindle so approximately 3/16"
of the decap pin is below the end of the die
(Ed: insert empty case in shell holder/shellplate. Raise ram so case enters die. Wiggle the decapping stem if it doesn't enter the flash hole. Primer should pop out. If not, lower ram and turn the decapping stem in until primer is ejected. Raise ram and lock the decapping stem and the resizing die.)
3. Tighten the spindle lock. If not tightened sufficiently, the spindle will
back out the top of the die when deprimed, or it will pull out of the die
when the ram is lowered. If the spindle is adjusted too high, the primer
may not be expelled and a new primer cannot be seated.
To adjust the full-length size die, follow these steps:
1. Raise the press ram to highest position without camming over.
2. Thread the full-length die into the press until the base touches the
shell holder head.
3. Tighten the lock ring against the press and tighten the set screw
with the allen wrench.
4. Adjust the expander/decap assembly.
3/16"
This applies to all normal sizing dies. I have heard that some people sharpeded the decapper pin tip to improve things. I would have expected to flatten the tip to improve things.

+1

Being a newby myself, I figure the best way to avoid issues is to follow the instructions closely. Using the RCBS version of the above text, I've never had any issues decapping .40 S&W.

Rick1967 10-02-2010 06:21 PM

I reload 40 S&W in large quantites. I have found that if I start out doing several hundred I will have to retighten the decapping pin. It will loosen up inside the die. I use RCBS dies and a RCBS press. If your pin is not tight enough it will do as you describe.


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