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Old 04-03-2009, 12:42 AM   #11
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Sad thing for me is, I'm shooting a replica Springfield trapdoor, fromwhat I've read, they don't take as much pressure as a Marlin or other .45/70. The load I found for trapdoors using IMR3031, was 36gr behind a 350gr bullet. I loaded up 10 rnds, but haven't shot any yet.
I would really like to mimic a factory load marked "safe for all rifles", with various powders, due largly to the non-availability of powders. Unfortunately, I only have IMR 3031 and 4198 on hand, I do have some other on backorder.
I have loads for most of my rifles figured out EXCEPT, MY BIG question, Does anyone have a load, for .44 mag using IMR3031? This to be used in a Marlin 1894?
I have many large pistol primers, many .44 bullets, many .45/70 bullets, few large rifle primers.We all know the delimma.
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IMHO the best powder for the .44 Mag is W-296. It should work fine through a lever gun and will give you the most velocity with less pressure than anything else.

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First thing, get yourself a loading manual, either from the powder companies, which are free, or buy a book from someone like Lyman, Hornady, and so on. These things are invaluable.

IMR3031 way to slow burning of a powder for the 44 mag. Like previous post says, 296 is great for top end loads. For plinking loads, try 231 Winchester, Red Dot or Trailboss. I have had great luck with all these with cast bullets, revolver and rifle.

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Default .45-70 Reloads - 3031

I have a Pedersoli Sharps 1874 replica in .45-70. I bought several boxes of Remington "safe for any rifle" ammo. This Remington (405 gr jacketed) ammo shot dead on at 100 yards. I then shot several boxes of GOEX Black Dawge Black Powder rounds (405 gr lead FN) - close to the original ammo that the .45-70 was designed for. Results were about the same, point of aim and bullet placement was dead on with the Remington smokless ammo.

Then I reloaded the Remington brass with 50 grains of 3031 and shot them. The result was the bullets were hitting about 8" high at 100 yards. Too much velocity. I could not lower the impact point as the rear sight was all the way down. I have since found a recipe that calls for 40 grains of 3031 and my subsequent research shows that the 40 grain load should have similar muzzle velocities to the BP rounds and the factory Remington rounds. I have just finished loading two boxes of 405 gr lead RFN with 40 grains of 3031, but have not tested them yet.

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TX try Reloading Pages of M.D. Smith he has some pretty good loads listed. The loads for the .45/70 work well in my trapdoor.

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