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Old 03-18-2013, 12:11 PM   #31
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WHOA WHOA!!! American Select is NOT Blue Dot!!!!

These are two different powders with different burn rates and different load data. BE VERY CAREFUL.

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I am not familiar with your powder. I use Hodgdon powders. Check on the label of the can for a website. Most powder manufacturers have a website with load data on it. But you realy should buy a recipe book. I use the Hodgdon paperback magazine for most of my recipes. I also have several hard back books but the paperback is my most used. Do get a good caliper. Overall length is very important. The deeper the bullet is seated, the less room in the case for the powder to burn and expand. Never start at max loads. If the book does not have "starting loads" then take the max load and reduce by 10%. That is a good baseline. Do also check the can and make sure that is does not say not to reduce the load. Many powders can be reduced a great deal. Others can be dangerous. 45acp is an easy cartridge to reload. But it is not to be taken lightely either.

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You did good to call the manufacture to make sure. You always want to read up reloading instructions and precautions so you don't blow up your gun and injure yourself. I have some American Select for pistol too, it does well. Read up and progress slowly, go exactly by the manual instructions and you will have good ammo to shoot.

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When you load your first round, pay attention to over all length of the cartridge for that particular bullet. Seating a bullet too deeply can increase pressure dramatically.
Thanks for the tip, Dan.

FYI, one of the things I was curious about was comparing my results (when I start reloading) with those of the purchased ammunition I have. I am familiar with statistical process control (SPC) techniques and manufacturing processes. I decided to measure some characteristics of 'bought' ammo. I used a single box of 50 cartridges. I found that this particular box of .45 ACP ammo had an average OAL of 1.250". (The actual number was 1.24977", but I rounded it.) So far, so good. However, the standard deviation of this population was over 10 thousandths of an inch and the (max - min) measurement was a whopping 40 thousandths of an inch. No wonder 'off the shelf' ammo is much less accurate than reloaded. I fully expect that my results will have MUCH less variation. At least, I hope so.
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WHOA WHOA!!! American Select is NOT Blue Dot!!!!

These are two different powders with different burn rates and different load data. BE VERY CAREFUL.
OK, I made an assumption. The label has a red border (about 1/8"), a black background, and a large blue circle in the center on which is printed "American Select Premium Ultra-Clean Smokeless Shotshell Powder" in white lettering.

I saw the blue circle and have heard 'blue dot' associated with Alliant powders. Hence my 'assumption'. Any clarification you can give will be appreciated. Thanks.
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! went to my LGS to buy some powder saturday. I ran out of IMR4831 for my .270's I was loading so I walked in and asked if they had ANY powder to load .270's. They didn't have IMR4831 so I ended up with H4831SC. Turns out I like H4831SC better. $31.95 lb.'s not too bad.

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I think we are about done here, so going to close this one down.

Message to any and all that are considering getting into reloading-

1. Right now, components are scarce and pricy.
2. Powder and primers are HAZMAT when shipped- and even pricier.
3. Before you buy ANYTHING, get a good reloading book- and READ IT FIRST. I suggest ABCs of Reloading (used copies cheep on Amazon and Alibris) but there are others.
4. FOLLOW the instructions explicitly. You START at the starting load, and work up.
5. If you cannot pay attention to detail, this is not for you.

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