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Old 12-13-2010, 06:11 PM   #11
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The Glock series of 9mm handguns (models 17, 18, 19, 26...) have the option of buying a 33-round magazine, which sticks out the bottom. Go to Youtube and look for Glock 18. You can also search for Glock magazines and you will find other sizes of mags. The 33-round magazine would only be used for a few reasons, though, since it is so unwieldy (range shooting for fun and killing people are two reasons I can think of).

The Glock 18, by the way, is not available in the US because it has a little switch that makes it go from semi-automatic (1 round per pull of the trigger) to fully automatic. A 33-round magazine goes very quickly.

Guns that fire 3-round bursts are NOT handguns. Someone here will correct me if I'm wrong, though. That concept is from the military's M-16, which is a rifle and can be selected to fire 1-round, 3-round bursts, or fully automatic.
Ha, you are wrong about one thing brother. The Glock 18s are available for purchase in the states but only to LE/Mil.
Strict adherence to this policy! I have a vid with a friend firing with his partner onthe Glock range with a G18 . I'll ask if I can share it!
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SecPro, only in good fun. Thanks for the correction. See, Jonathan? This is why FTF is the best firearms forum on the interwebz!

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There ARE handguns capable of burst fire- and the term "Teats on a boar hog" is the closest I can come to describing their usefullness. MOST handguns will be semiautomatic. When using a fully automatic firearm (machinegun) despite what you see from Hollywood, it is NOT used like a firehose- it is used in bursts- which is why many military rifles are now equipped to give semi-automatic fire- one shot per trigger pull- and burst fire- pull trigger, get 3 shots. A firearm like the full auto AK47 wants to dance around if you are trying to empty the magazine in one long burst. Noise does not stop an opponent- bullets impacting do- so you have to be able to hit your target. Reason for odd number of cartridges- most hi-caps use a double stack mag- a cross section of the mag would have rounds left right left right- so one side holds one more than the other.

There are several different "9mm" cartridges. The most common is likely the 9mm Parabellum, which is the formal name for the 9mm Luger. There is a shorter cartridge called 9mm Kurz or 9mm Cortos, which is the .380 pistol cartridge, and the Soviet 9mm Makarov. These do NOT interchange. You can probably find 9mm Parabellum in any major city in the world. Been around for 100 years.

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There are a couple of selective fire handguns out there. Glock G-18 and Beretta 93r being the most common. Even those are very rare by comparison to their semi-auto only counterparts. Perhaps only a few dozen transferrable 93r's and less than 100 G-18's in the US. This of course discounts the few hundred or so of each that might be illegally in country.

A machine gun like an AK-47 (the real thing, not some semi-auto clone) is selective fire. It is capable of firing either full auto or semi-auto

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Stir the pot. She could have an FN Five Seven which holds 20 rounds of 5.7x28. Low recoil high noise.
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Thanks! And I just checked a video of how loading a magazine works, so I was wondering something else:

If somebody was terrible at reloading, if they had no practice with it, how long would it take somebody to load a 33 9mm bullet magazine?

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Thanks! And I just checked a video of how loading a magazine works, so I was wondering something else:

If somebody was terrible at reloading, if they had no practice with it, how long would it take somebody to load a 33 9mm bullet magazine?
It could take several minutes, if they had a joint problem or were unfamiliar with that particular pistol. Happily, some pistols (including the XD45 i bought) come with a little plastic thingy that makes it easier and faster to load the mags by pushing down the rounds in the mag while you slide in another round. That thingy is very handy at getting those last few rounds into the mags for my XD; i will eventually get a similar device for my CZ-75b 9mm pistol (a fairly common pistol internationally, or so i am told).

This is similar to the loader that comes with the XD: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=453926 . They make other types for rifle magazines.
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With one of these bad boys here maglula Ltd. - The world's #1 magazine loaders and unloaders ! the time would be cut in half drastically. So the proper answer would be it depends. If they have a loader, arthritis, etc.

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I had the opportunity to fire a Glock 18 while at a defensive shotgun class.
The instructor had one and let us all fire it at steel. Faaast rate of fire emptied the mag too quick for only getting to shoot one mag worth of ammo. It was easy to handle and I put most of my lead on targetl.

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