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Old 03-01-2013, 03:29 PM   #21
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I'm by no means an expert in this area, but you said your use to 150gr and 165gr pills being flung out of your gun. So you might have all the charges right as well as Hodgon being dead on about the speed the 180s are leaving the barrel, but because of the added weight, it could be increasing the recoil more as well as a different burn rate for the powder. But that's just my thoughts.
I have shot factory 180s out of it before, they don't kick like that. Someone on another forum lat last night warned me that that load is well overpressure despite being a published load from a reputable company?!? Quickload put that at 70k psi, I cross checked with Sierra and they say 46.5gr is a whopping 2.9 over max! I have opted to error on the side of safety and abandon that load despite the lack of visible pressure signs. Darn I thought I had me a real winner there
My 308 is weird, it loves 150gr, and now discovered it loves 180gr SGKs, but it refuses to group well with 165s never seen anything like it. Tried every 165 and 168gr bullet I have, Nosler, Sierra, Hornady, Speer with every suitable powder: Varger, RL15, H380, Big Game, BL-C(2) and I cannot get them to shoot anywhere near as tight as my 150s and 180s. Weirdest dang thing I have ever seen. I just need to find another powder for these Sierra since I know the rifle really likes 180 SGKs
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:54 PM   #22
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Try IMR4350,H450,RE15,12,WIN 748,760. for the 165gn projectiles.

Shame you don't have access to our AR2209 which was essentially developed as a military powder and has excellent temperature stability at all temperatures and burns very cleanly which is what I use in my .30/06AI,.270 CMC Moutaineer and .303 SMLE in weights of 165gn,130gn and 180gn in the 3 calibres listed.

It's equal to H450,H4350,IMR4350,W760,RE19 in burn rates and is made in Australia by ADI(Thales Group) the same as Varget which is AR2208 in Australia.
The .308 seems to be more suited to the 150gn weights and it does perform very well in that weight range here in Australia on pigs,goats,deer,donkeys and horses.

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Tried all of those except the 760 and RL12 (sold out everywhere), no dice. I was hoping for a heavyweight load seeing as I intended this to be my woods rifle, but I very well may just have to use 150s. I have never once in my life used a 150gr 30 cal on game I have always leaned toward the heavier bullets, hunting in thick brush it can be awful hard to track them if you do not have a good bloodtrail so I always want an exit just in case they run, which granted normally they don't.

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Tried all of those except the 760 and RL12 (sold out everywhere), no dice. I was hoping for a heavyweight load seeing as I intended this to be my woods rifle, but I very well may just have to use 150s. I have never once in my life used a 150gr 30 cal on game I have always leaned toward the heavier bullets, hunting in thick brush it can be awful hard to track them if you do not have a good bloodtrail so I always want an exit just in case they run, which granted normally they don't.
Have you tried Woodleigh or Barnes projectiles in those weights. Woodleigh's especially have a very good reputation on medium to big game and I have some in 180gn for my 30/06AI.
They're Aussie made or failing that Barnes projectiles are just as good,regards
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I have heard of Woodleigh bullets before but never seen them for sale in the states, they have a very goo reputation but are pricy as all getup at our online retailers, I have some TTSX worked up just not tested yet for the 06, I need to go steal it back from my brother he loves that gun.

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My grandfather always used Rem 30-06 150gr bronze points in the neck every time. No running just dropped DRT little damage to meat

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My grandfather always used Rem 30-06 150gr bronze points in the neck every time. No running just dropped DRT little damage to meat
I also take a neck shot with my.308 using a soft point. No problems so far on an instant kill. For boar, I shoot through the ears when it is standing still. I prefer a .308 because it will not destroy smaller types of deer, but will also kill the larger game in these woods. Not much meat left on Roe deer if using a 30-06. I would use soft points either way. I use Sellier & Bellot 180gr SP.
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My .308 choices
Sellier & Bellot 180gr SP
Norma 180gr SP Vulkan-for Hochwild (High game)

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