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Old 02-10-2010, 01:33 AM   #11
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Ok, think I better understand now. I will wait until the mail comes with my flash hole deburring tool and get that done before I go any farther. I will just continue to trim to length. 1000 cases will take a while with that. No sense in getting in a hurry is there? Until the rain stops and the wind calms from 60 mph gusts I can't go shoot anyway.

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:51 AM   #12
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I have 500 brand new cases that need to have the flash hole's deburred. Any one wanna do it for me? I have 100 done already oh well got plenty of time off to do them in-front of the TV.
.308 reload project that I did last June and July I resized and prepped just over 8500 cases in my liesure time. I bought the RCBS Trim Mate Case Prep Center. All I can say is that this tool made the process of deburring the flash holes, primer pocket cleaning and uniforming, and inside and outside case neck champhering for this amount of brass alot more plesant and quicker than continuing to do it by hand. If you get this machine and prep brass in front of TV on TV tray,as I did, you might consider using the shop vac to clean up the shards of brass shavings, which in my case not only ended up all over the floor but on the recliner chair I sat in as well. At the time the mess didn't go over very well with the GF.
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MRM you need a giraud trimmer.

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MRM you need a giraud trimmer.

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Now you've done it. I'm going to have to buy one of these. This Giraud trimmer champhers as it trims and even has a meplat trimmer conversion. I can not only see this as a must have for the remaining still near full garbage can of 308 Win. brass I have, but for the 300 Win. Mag. I'll be loading soon for the target rifle.

I have the RCBS Trim Pro Power Case Trimmer but it doesn't champher the trimmed case neck. Also using the cutters on the Trim Mate Case Prep Center for the case neck champhering in high volume runs, even though better than doing it by hand , still really sucks after 500 or so rounds.

Do you have or use the Giraud case trimmer?
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No I don't but ever since the day I was showed a video I have wanted one. For me it would just be a kick azz toy to have. But yes that thing is a high volume loaders dream machine.

I can show you some nifty stuff. Like the Brass-o-Matic annealing machine.

New, Versatile Brass-O-Matic Annealing Machine AccurateShooter.com Bulletin

here is the Ken Light annealing machine very nice and makes the task much easier and provides better uniformity of annealing.

The After Market Sight Specialist - Ken Light Manufacturing

Greats article about it.
The Art and Science of Annealing

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I've seen the brass-o-matic machine but this is the first time I've seen the Ken Light machine. I've been looking into some sort of annnealing equipment for not only high volume runs but also for the brass for the target rifle.

All my 308 Win. brass is once fired either out of my current up and runnning SAI M1A or one of the older SA M-14/M1A's not currently up and running. I've been saving most all my spent brass since 1992. I figure that I should be O.K. for about 2 or 3 resizings of this brass before I would need to anneal. For the 300 Win. Mag., my brass now is all new Nosler brass and I figure it will need to be annealed as well after a couple of resizings.

Whats your thoughts on how often annealing should be performed?

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It varies but I think about once 3 or 4 firings is about right. Just depends on how much you work the brass and how hot the loads are you are shooting.

The nice thing is you can do it after each firing if you wish as brass has unique properties that allow the brass to return to the original state once heated. unlike steel which changes and is different after every heating brass just goes back to its original state.

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I aneal after each loading as I tend to pick up range brass also that gets mixed in. To insure all the brass is properly anealed, I just do it all.

I don't bother anealing 5.56 or 7.62X39 as I generally lose them before they become a problem. My 7.62 X 51 brass gets fired through an HK and a CETME. Both give the brass a pretty hefty workout. I aneal to neutralize the adverse effects of the delayed roller blowback systems.

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My 7.62 X 51 brass gets fired through an HK and a CETME. Both give the brass a pretty hefty workout. I aneal to neutralize the adverse effects of the delayed roller blowback systems.
Doesn't the HK/CETME have a fluted chamber Robo?
I didn't think you could reload the brass Any other special steps required to load?

The reloading issue has kinda kept me from getting one.
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I started annealing because I kept getting lots of carbon on my case necks. I did a test and noticed I had to run near max loads to stop it. I don't like loading like that so I tested a batch of win brass that was on its 4th reload. I just held the brass over my torch then dropped into a bucket of water. After that no more carbon.

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