making my own .223 deer load. need help. - Page 2
You are Unregistered, please register to use all of the features of FirearmsTalk.com!    
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Gear & Accessories > Ammunition & Reloading >

making my own .223 deer load. need help.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-22-2012, 01:55 PM   #11
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
quigleysharps4570's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: South Central,Kansas
Posts: 139
Default

A 55 gr. Barnes TSX is a good bullet too...been alot of Oklahoma deer dropped with my .220 Swift and that bullet. But...like Txhillbilly said...I'd limit the shots to 150-200 yards with that .223 if it were me.
quigleysharps4570 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 02:04 PM   #12
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Bracebridge,Ontario
Posts: 426
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

For powder I like Varget or Bench Mark wich is smaller extuded Varget.
My 2 cents

F.K.
__________________
Thats why they call it hunting and not grocery shopping
Fisherking is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 03:08 PM   #13
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 19
Default

Several different powders and bullet combinations will get you to the target. As I said earlier, accuracy isn't the issue. Also, as stated, the VMax isn't designed for your intended purpose. I hope the chart below will convence you to look for a more appropriate caliber.

Energy (ft-lbs) .223 Remington
Cartridge_Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
UMC® 45 1259 871 590
Premier® AccuTip™ 50 1209 927 701 522 380 273
UMC® 50 1302 933 655
Premier® AccuTip™ 55 1282 995 763 576 427 312
Remington® Express® 55 1282 921 648 443 295 197
Remington® Express® 55 1282 939 675 473 323 220
Remington® Express® 55 1282 929 660 456 307 207
UMC® 55 1282 929 660
Remington® Express® 62 1260 911 643 442 298 204
Remington® Express® 69 1379 1133 925 747 598 473
bowguy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 03:15 PM   #14
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 19
Default

Sorry the text formatting didn't transfer well but looking at the energy values show at 300 yards the highest energy level is barely over 900 foot pounds. All other bullets were near one-half this.
bowguy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 04:22 PM   #15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Dan308's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Albuquerque,NM
Posts: 285
Liked 144 Times on 73 Posts
Likes Given: 12

Default

my opinion is that the .223 is not the right tool for the job at 350yds. None of the .223 bullets are constructed for that purpose. I mean yes you can kill a deer at that range with a .223 but it won't be pretty. At 300 yards the .223 has 440 ft lbs. of energy. A 30-30 which is considered a brush or close range gun has 650 ft lbs. of energy.

Dan308
www.dtknives.com
Dan308 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 06:06 PM   #16
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
kryptar19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: arkansas
Posts: 1,768
Liked 641 Times on 382 Posts
Likes Given: 2022

Default

Thanks guys for all the info. I was thinking that it could be possible but now that I've seen the charts (which I should have done in The first place) I see that's just not gonna make the cut at 350 yards. Not on deer anyways.
kryptar19 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 07:11 PM   #17
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 19
Default

Good for you krytar19.
bowguy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 09:53 PM   #18
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
TLuker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: S.C.
Posts: 3,549
Liked 1961 Times on 1253 Posts
Likes Given: 4422

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Txhillbilly View Post
The VMax is strictly a varmint bullet.On larger animals such as deer,they just explode on impact and only cause an outer flesh wound.
I load up my hunting loads with 65gr Sierra Game Kings,and also use 70gr Speer Soft Points.These are the heaviest .224 hunting bullets that are available.

I would limit the effective range of them to 150-200 yds on deer sized game,but they will put them down quick with good shot placement.

Varget,H335,and BL-C(2) give very good results with either bullet.

I've been looking for a .223 load for deer as well and was think exactly what you have posted. I think I'll start with 65gr Sierra.
TLuker is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 10:56 PM   #19
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
treehugger49's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Newnan,Georgia
Posts: 421
Liked 42 Times on 36 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kryptar19 View Post
Thanks guys for all the info. I was thinking that it could be possible but now that I've seen the charts (which I should have done in The first place) I see that's just not gonna make the cut at 350 yards. Not on deer anyways.
Get a 6.8 SPC upper for your AR-15 and you'll be good on deer out to 350 yards. Lots of options for those who roll their own, too.
__________________
XD-40 service, XD-9sc, member GeorgiaCarry.Org, National Rifle Association, Gun Owners of America, North American Hunting Club, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
treehugger49 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 09:03 PM   #20
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Buckhannon,,WEST VIRGINIA
Posts: 6
Default

Don't let anybody try and fool you about light grain bullets. A 55 gr. Nosler Balistic Tip loaded with 25 gr. Hodgen Benchmark Powder has muzzle velocity of 3000 fps, at 200 yds it is still 2300 fps with 646# energy, at 300 yds. it is 2000 fps with 489# Energy. Now for the shocker a 50 gr. Nosler Bal. Tip with 3200fps at the muzzle has at 200 yds. 2400 fps and 640# energy, 300 yds. 2100 fps and 490# energy. So with the 50 gr you are shooting flatter which means more bullet speed and within 1# of energy, sight in at 3" low at a hundred yds. you should be dead on at 200 and 5" low at 300. With a 55 gr. you need to sight in 3.5" low at a 100 yds to be dead on at 200 and 5.7 low at 300. All by the way this is with a 14" Thompson Contender barrel, just imagine what a rifle barrel would be. Now just a couple pointers, make sure your gun it on, a bullet, I don't care how big or how small and fast will do no harm if it goes flying bye you deer. Also a 25-06 would be a great choice for this kind of hunting with a 85 Nosler Bal. Tip. I just say nosler because their ballistics are in the back of the load book.

Randy
randyjarrett is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
making your own slugs moneymaker17 General Shotgun Discussion 11 10-07-2010 09:30 PM
DB making us look bad robocop10mm Politics, Religion and Controversy 14 12-11-2009 07:14 PM
Making my own gun Circuit Gunsmithing Forum 1 01-17-2008 02:37 AM



Newest Threads