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Old 04-14-2013, 12:15 PM   #11
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The NUMBER ONE offender of new reloaders getting into trouble with their loads is the POWDER!!

The two powders you have/have listed are NOT common .38Spl. powders.
Each powder company has the full listing of their powders, and the IDEAL loads that they are used in.
Spend $20-25.00 and buy yourself a pound of powder made for .38 Special.

If you can find it, WW-231/HP-38 is an IDEAL all around powder for most all pistol loads.

Not a rant, but USE the correct powder, and make SAFE reloads...Bill.
I don't load for the 38 Special, so I do not know what the "Ideal" powder is. If I did load for it, my "Ideal" powder might differ from yours.

If you look at the Powder Manufactures load data and web site you will see that the OP DID select a powder recommended by them. So according to IMR 700-X is ideal for the 38 Special.

700-X
This extruded flake powder is ideally suited for shotshells in 12 and 16 gauge where clay target and light field loads are the norm. It doubles as an excellent pistol target powder for such cartridges as the 38 Special and 45 ACP and
many more.

Link.
http://www.imrpowder.com/shotpist.html

There is also lots of load data with SR 7625 for the 38 Special. Along with several printed manuals, It can even be found on the Powder Manufacturers web site.

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp


So, Ken, use the powders you have purchased, they will work as there is data to support them. Enjoy and be safe.
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nitestalker - Thanks for the reply. I didnt think I was reading stuff wrong about shotgun powder in handguns.

noylj - Thanks for the info on the 158gn, it was the other bullets I have, 142gn, I couln't find the data on. 1 lesson learned was to always keep the manufacturer info, just in case.

mesmeric - Thanks for the support. I really enjoy this sport/hobby and will continue in a safe and smart way.

As a newbi to reloading I do agree with Bill in that powder is the most confusing part. With all the different bullet and powder types available experience does play a big part. Then add the fact that there can be a very small difference between the starting and max load experimenting any is scary.

Thanks again everyone, I am sure we will talking more.

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Just did a google of IMR 700X and IMR 7625 / 38 special and seen quite a bit of info.

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Old 04-15-2013, 11:44 PM   #14
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142gn bullets? Then use 140-145gn data.
140gn jacketed is 3.9-4.3gn 700X
140gn lead (which is what you should use for most plated) is 3.1-4.3gn 700X

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Thanks noylj.
I loaded my first 25 9mm and shot them last night, it was kind of exciting. Only problem I had was some FTEs so I am going to bump up the load from the starting load to see if that helps. I think it was the Lee manual that said if you need or want to increase your load do it in 5 steps from the starting load to the max.
I started to load the 142 gr 38s tonight and for some reason the first 4 cases got kinked (only word I can think of to describe it) It was like one side of the case wasn't going into the seating die correctly so it was kinking on one side. I switched to my 158gr bullets and those went great. I am hoping to get to the range tomorrow and see how they shoot.

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KJdeut, when starting with a new powder, start with the lowest charge first and work your way up and watch for signs of overpressure.

the powder makers website is a good source for load data. they can update a website quicker than they can publish a new load data book.

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Yup, going slow and careful.

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The ABC's of Reloading Manual covers most if not all propellants and bullets that have been successful combining but doesn't give load data. There are numerous powders that work well in shotgun loads and pistol loads.

ABC's of Reloading seems to be the preferred manual on this forum but Modern Reloading has the same info and has load data.

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The ABC's of Reloading Manual covers most if not all propellants and bullets that have been successful combining but doesn't give load data. There are numerous powders that work well in shotgun loads and pistol loads.

ABC's of Reloading seems to be the preferred manual on this forum but Modern Reloading has the same info and has load data.
that book is an excellent one to teach beginners the basics of the reloading procedures and about doing it safely. it's one i highly recommend for anyone thinking about getting into reloading. there's even lots of good information in it for veteran reloaders as well.
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38 Cal 158 gr Round Nose FMJ
Small Pistol Primers
Winchester 231 Powder (3.8 grains) min load
Winchester 231 Powder ( 4.2 grains) max load

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