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CapnJack 03-24-2013 01:35 PM

Leading from .45acp reloads?
 
Heres the long n short cuzz somtimes my posts are windy...

Found a box of 500count Hornady 200gr. SWC lead from LGS loaded up roughly 25 to try out the load.

Lrg, Pprimers--new cases--RedDot pwdr--200gr. LSWC Hornady

Load-- 4.0gr. red dot -- LOA--1.1212

I hand throw all my charges ona RCBS scale, LOA first couple witha good digi-caliper and use a headspace gauge.

After going through 3mags to try out these reloads i started cleanin the barrel lastnight and noticed the residue not stopping. I continued this mornin with the cleaning and it just seems to keep comin :(

I go from bore brush to wet patches to dry and everything inbetween. Lookin in the bore its def. not like after cleaning after FMJ, which is all ive shot up until now. Suggestions? Id like to go out this afternoon since the sun is out and do somr plinking. Whats the most this will do? Cake the crap outta the bore and make cleaning sessions longer? I clean after every shoot.

mseric 03-24-2013 01:46 PM

Removing lead is very simple and easy.

Go down to your local Grocery store or Wall-mart and pick up some All Copper Chore Boys scrubbing pads. Open one up and cut off a square with a scissors. Wrap it around a Worn out bore brush or a nylon one. Run it back and forth in the bore, should take but a minute or two. Clean as a whistle.

Now, to why the excess leading.

What size were these bullets, lead should be at least .001 larger then the bore.

Hornady Lead bullets a swaged very soft lead, not cast, could be too soft for your load and gun.

Did you clean "ALL" the copper out of the bore before you switched to lead? You should.

Rick1967 03-24-2013 01:51 PM

I shoot soft lead all the time. Some of my guns lead up. Some dont. It depends on how tight the bullet is in the bore. The tighter the better. I bought an old Colt revolver that was leaded up so bad it looked like the rifling was gone. When I was done it looked new again in the bore.

Go down to kmart and get a pack of chore-boy copper pot scrubbers. They are real copper. Do not buy the cheap imitations. Take a pair af scissors and cut them into squares about 2" x 2". Wrap it around a smaller cleaning brush. I use a worn out 38 brush to do 45. Run it through the bore dry. Do not lube at all. If you vigorously run it back and forth through the barrel for about 30 seconds it will get it all out. Don't worry about hurting the barrel. You shoot copper jacketed ammo at much higher speeds.

Do this outside. When you are done there will be lead powder on the ground around you.

Pasquanel 03-24-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mseric (Post 1188428)
Removing lead is very simple and easy.

Go down to your local Grocery store or Wall-mart and pick up some All Copper Chore Boys scrubbing pads. Open one up and cut off a square with a scissors. Wrap it around a Worn out bore brush or a nylon one. Run it back and forth in the bore, should take but a minute or two. Clean as a whistle.

Now, to why the excess leading.

What size were these bullets, lead should be at least .001 larger then the bore.

Hornady Lead bullets a swaged very soft lead, not cast, could be too soft for your load and gun.

Did you clean "ALL" the copper out of the bore before you switched to lead? You should.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick1967 (Post 1188432)
I shoot soft lead all the time. Some of my guns lead up. Some dont. It depends on how tight the bullet is in the bore. The tighter the better. I bought an old Colt revolver that was leaded up so bad it looked like the rifling was gone. When I was done it looked new again in the bore.

Go down to kmart and get a pack of chore-boy copper pot scrubbers. They are real copper. Do not buy the cheap imitations. Take a pair af scissors and cut them into squares about 2" x 2". Wrap it around a smaller cleaning brush. I use a worn out 38 brush to do 45. Run it through the bore dry. Do not lube at all. If you vigorously run it back and forth through the barrel for about 30 seconds it will get it all out. Don't worry about hurting the barrel. You shoot copper jacketed ammo at much higher speeds.

Do this outside. When you are done there will be lead powder on the ground around you.

Thank you both for the tip about the Chore-Boy copper scrubbers! I fired a box of 45 acp my Dad had assembled years ago and apparently used very soft lead and some type of dry lube! It took hours for me to get it clean using the traditional procedures!

CapnJack 03-24-2013 02:07 PM

Thanx alot for the quick respones guys. Used caliper best i could for bore diameter of .441 and the lead was .450. I will def. pck up some copper chore boys and get to scrubbin =)

Rick1967 03-24-2013 02:08 PM

No problem. Glad to help. When I started to type there were no other post but the first one. My work called me on the phone. I set laptop aside and took care of work. When I finished my post I realized that the other poster had said the same thing.

mseric 03-24-2013 02:09 PM

http://choreboyscrubbers.com/Products/Ultimate%20Scrubbers%20Pure%20Copper.aspx

locutus 03-24-2013 02:32 PM

The lead bullets from Hornady, Speer, etc are SWAGED, NOT CAST. They are dead soft. Usually 97 percent lead and 3 percent antimony. I won't use them.

Cast lead bullets are normally 90 percent lead, ~3 percent tin and ~7 percent antimony. Far superior to swaged, soft lead.

The easiest way to remove leading is use of the Outer's "Foul Out" electrochemical bore cleaner.

aandabooks 03-24-2013 02:44 PM

The lead bullets I buy for my .45ACP have not caused me any problems. They are cast at .452.

mseric 03-24-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapnJack (Post 1188443)
Thanx alot for the quick respones guys. Used caliper best i could for bore diameter of .441 and the lead was .450. I will def. pck up some copper chore boys and get to scrubbin =)

Not "bore" diameter, Groove diameter.

Should be around .451.

Your lead bullet should be .452, if it is truly .450 it is to small for lead.


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