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JayCody 09-25-2013 03:29 AM

This might help http://youtu.be/p4KmaXfoIKE

FullautoUSA 09-29-2013 12:43 AM

Why not try the lead pellets used in pellet guns. Melt them down and put them in the cast. Or would lead pellets be effected by whatever it is that effects lead ammo?

JW357 09-29-2013 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JayCody (Post 1382516)

Thanks. I've seen that before. No sure how much of it applies to Kali tho.

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Originally Posted by FullautoUSA (Post 1386713)
Why not try the lead pellets used in pellet guns. Melt them down and put them in the cast. Or would lead pellets be effected by whatever it is that effects lead ammo?

Interesting idea. That might not be very cost effective to get enough to make a lot of projectiles though.

Vikingdad 09-29-2013 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FullautoUSA (Post 1386713)
Why not try the lead pellets used in pellet guns. Melt them down and put them in the cast. Or would lead pellets be effected by whatever it is that effects lead ammo?

It would take a boat-load of pellets to make a few bullets.

And what do you mean by "whatever it is that effects lead ammo?" It is the lead itself that is poisonous. Causes all sorts of neurological damage, brain development disorders, all sorts of nasty stuff. You don't want to eat it. But as mentioned, in its pure cast form it is far less dangerous than if it starts to oxidize (lead salts) or when it vaporizes. That's why people can walk around with a bullet inside them that can't be removed. I'm sure it does have some neurological effects (aside from the fact there is a foreign object in your body) but exactly how much? Who is to say?

FullautoUSA 09-29-2013 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JW357
Thanks. I've seen that before. No sure how much of it applies to Kali tho.

Interesting idea. That might not be very cost effective to get enough to make a lot of projectiles though.

If a tin of say 500 costs around $20, and .223, for example, is 55 grains and the pellets are 8 grains, than at 7 pellets per .223 bullet you can make 73 bullets per can of 500 pellets, at $20 a can. Which means you can get 73 bullets for $20, which is about 27 a bullet. But you would also need the brass.

JW357 09-29-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FullautoUSA (Post 1386738)

If a tin of say 500 costs around $20, and .223, for example, is 55 grains and the pellets are 8 grains, than at 7 pellets per .223 bullet you can make 73 bullets per can of 500 pellets, at $20 a can. Which means you can get 73 bullets for $20, which is about 27 a bullet. But you would also need the brass.

Thanks for showing the math. I would have looked it up eventually. You just save me time.

However I don't reload .223. I reload calibers at a minimum of 125 grain bullets. Not very economical for pistol calibers.

Still an interesting thought though.

FullautoUSA 09-29-2013 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vikingdad

It would take a boat-load of pellets to make a few bullets.

And what do you mean by "whatever it is that effects lead ammo?" It is the lead itself that is poisonous. Causes all sorts of neurological damage, brain development disorders, all sorts of nasty stuff. You don't want to eat it. But as mentioned, in its pure cast form it is far less dangerous than if it starts to oxidize (lead salts) or when it vaporizes. That's why people can walk around with a bullet inside them that can't be removed. I'm sure it does have some neurological effects (aside from the fact there is a foreign object in your body) but exactly how much? Who is to say?

I meant whatever law it is that effects lead ammo. Isn't that why he is starting to cast his own rounds? Didn't they recently pass a law that effected lead ammo in ca?

FullautoUSA 09-29-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JW357

Thanks for showing the math. I would have looked it up eventually. You just save me time.

However I don't reload .223. I really calibers at a minimum of 125 grain bullets. Not very economical for pistol calibers.

Still an interesting thought though.

No, it probably won't work well for pistol calibers, especially stuff like .44 mag, .357 mag, .45 acp, etc.....

JW357 09-29-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FullautoUSA (Post 1386740)

I meant whatever law it is that effects lead ammo. Isn't that why he is starting to cast his own rounds? Didn't they recently pass a law that effected lead ammo in ca?

It hasn't taken affect yet. Awaiting the governors signature. Plus I believe it affects hunting, not plinking, which is what I'd use it for.

Still not a good law though.

FullautoUSA 09-29-2013 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JW357

It hasn't taken affect yet. Awaiting the governors signature. Plus I believe it affects hunting, not plinking, which is what I'd use it for.

Still not a good law though.

How do they know if someone is using the lead ammo for hunting or for plinking? Did they make it so that you can't buy lead ammo, or can you still buy lead ammo but just can't use it to hunt?


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