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Old 11-05-2010, 10:53 PM   #11
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BTW folks.... "better flow" equates to better "fill out" inside the mold which results in nice sharp corners instead of rounded edges on your projectiles.
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I would like to thank everyone for their advise, I have ordered the Lymans cast bullet book. And am in the process of finding source for lead tin and antimony. I do load bullets fro a 270, 30-06, 338 and a 32 win special. I have just acquired a Pedersoli, Sharps 1874,45-70 replica, this is what I want to cast bullets for, am also getting into muzzle loaders so it was another area I wanted to cast bullets in.
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I would like to thank everyone for their advise, I have ordered the Lymans cast bullet book. And am in the process of finding source for lead tin and antimony. I do load bullets fro a 270, 30-06, 338 and a 32 win special. I have just acquired a Pedersoli, Sharps 1874,45-70 replica, this is what I want to cast bullets for, am also getting into muzzle loaders so it was another area I wanted to cast bullets in.
Again thanks for the knowledge that you have given me

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Casting for the rifles is quite a different proposition that casting for something like the .45 ACP. You need much harder lead that is much more difficult to get cheap.
Linotype is the most common high grade alloy. Places like Rotometals carries it. Check estate sales and garage sales for loose type metal.

I get large quantities of lead, melt and flux it, then pour it into ingots. I use a sharpie to mark what alloy it is (L for linotype, W for wheelweights, V for virgin, etc). I use varying amounts of each for specific purposes (50/50 L/W for rifles, etc).

Muzzle loaders are a different animal entirely. Minie balls and shotgun slugs seem to perform better in 20/1 Lead/tin alloy. Tin is available in 50/50 bar solder from many plumbing supply stores. Rotometals also has this. 9 1/2lbs of virgin lead and one bar of 50/50 solder closely approximates 20/1 blend.
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I cast bullets in just about everything I shoot handgun and rifle.I use a mix of 9lbs ww to 1 lb of linotype.I had a bud measure it and it was 15 BHN.I have been using this mix for years.imho super hard alloys are not required.
here is a test @ 2200 fps with my 44 cal 265 gr ranch dog bullet.

HORNADY 265 VS RD265 [PICS AND DATA]

I was lucky years ago as I ran into a guy that bought a old printing shop and wanted to get "rid" of all the linotype laying around @ .25 a lb

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I have just acquired a Pedersoli, Sharps 1874,45-70 replica, this is what I want to cast bullets for, am also getting into muzzle loaders so it was another area I wanted to cast bullets in.
What bullet do you have in mind for that 45-70?
As for your muzzleloader...I generally use plumbers lead or whatever soft source I can come up with for round ball. Have cast alot of them ftom old lead lab sinks...for hardness they test between pure lead and WW's.
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Casting is a labor of love for me. A good bullet caster will a BHN tester. I make my bullet lube which reduces cost. Cold Molds and low alloy temperature are often a source of malformed bullets. You have to cast your bullets to a BHN which will match your velocity. This will reduce leading. A hard bullet will lead your barrel at a low velocity. There are numerous firearms not designed to shot cast bullets because of the rifling. Alloy`s typically contain tin, lead, antimony, and arsenic. Wheel weights can very in BHN number. I typically utilize wheel weights, solder, lead and linotype to cast my bullets. Let me say that casting is not cheap. Good luck to you and let me know if I can help. Do not try Babbit.

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I have pushed these to 2000 fps in my 375 ouch & ouch and 1600 fps in a win BB94 in 375 winchester.I have shot several deer with this bullet.boom flop.
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A good bullet caster will<have> a BHN tester.... You have to cast your bullets to a BHN which will match your velocity.....
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Not necessarily so. You can 'harden' lead by heat soaking--I've taken BHN 14 to over 27 with some oven bake time. Time itself will harden lead, some of my very old stash that started off as WW's at about 14 is almost BHN 30 now. BTW don't do any 'work' with the bullets like sizing as this will soften the bearing surface, and you are right back were you started.

FYI...I built my own BHN tester with a calipers, magnifier, shotgun wad compression gauge and a BB.
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