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Old 11-27-2009, 02:28 AM   #11
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Somehow I doubt that pictures of me will solve this problem.

Why oh Why does a picture of a beautiful woman turn me into a blabbering idiot????


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Why oh Why does a picture of a beautiful woman turn me into a blabbering idiot????
Oh it doesn't. But it may bring out,,,,,,,,


Sorry I was going to be mean, but you were too kind to me, so I couldn't. You are not a blabbering idiot. And thanks.


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Maybe I pressed them in too far? But they don't go below the Min OAL.
I have run into that before myself. If your OAL is too short, the casing can wedge itself between the bottom and the top of the chamber. The bullet nose needs to contact the top of the chamber in time to "lever" the case downward to align it with the bore. If the upward angle of the round coming out of the magazine isn't "corrected" soon enough, the case just sticks there because of the steep angle.

I discovered this after using a new bullet mold with an ever-so-slightly different ogive on the bullet, and instantly started having feeding problems.
Try increasing your OAL a bit and see if that helps your feeding problem. It cured mine.

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I have run into that before myself. If your OAL is too short, the casing can wedge itself between the bottom and the top of the chamber. The bullet nose needs to contact the top of the chamber in time to "lever" the case downward to align it with the bore. If the upward angle of the round coming out of the magazine isn't "corrected" soon enough, the case just sticks there because of the steep angle.

I discovered this after using a new bullet mold with an ever-so-slightly different ogive on the bullet, and instantly started having feeding problems.
Try increasing your OAL a bit and see if that helps your feeding problem. It cured mine.

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Thanks. I did recheck the OAL on the ones that didn't feed, and they are above the minimum recommended. But I will make them a little longer with today's batch and let you know how it turned out.

Thanks much.
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For the best accuracy and reliability, Try to get as close to the MAXIMUM OAL as you can and still fit in the mag/chamber.
Definately flare the mouth ENOUGH. You can avoid shaving by flaring enough.
Taper crimp is recommended. Always taper crimp in a seperate operation from bullet seating. Roll crimps (revolvers) can be applied in the same operation as seating.
Get a case gauge or use the barrel as a gauge. Remove barrel and drop the rounds into the chamber to see if they fit.

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For the best accuracy and reliability, Try to get as close to the MAXIMUM OAL as you can and still fit in the mag/chamber.
Definately flare the mouth ENOUGH. You can avoid shaving by flaring enough.
Taper crimp is recommended. Always taper crimp in a seperate operation from bullet seating. Roll crimps (revolvers) can be applied in the same operation as seating.
With the dies I have, how do I taper them separately from the seating? It is done in one step with what I have? Do I simply set the bullet, then remove that piece and taper it to feel? Also, the bible does not have the max OAL that I can see only the minimum OAL. Or is the max OAL listed on the diagram at the start of the page with that particular caliber?

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Get a case gauge or use the barrel as a gauge. Remove barrel and drop the rounds into the chamber to see if they fit.
Ive got a dial caliper, but I did use one of my spare barrels to check the ones that didn't feed properly the other day, and found a few that fit perfectly, went back out and shot them with no problem.

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How hot are you loading them? Sometimes lead fouling can cause them to set back far enough that it doesn't fully go back into battery.

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I haven't noticed any fouling in the barrel or near the leade. I haven't used more than 4.8 gr of WIN 231.

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1.275" is book max for the cartridge. I try to load near that length. Check a samll batch in your magazines to be sure they move smoothly from a fully loaded mag.

If you are using a 3 die set and/or a single stage press, you would have to loosen the die (to eliminate the crimp feature) and screw the seater stem in further. Then once all were seated, Loosen/remove the seater stem and screw the die in further to apply a crimp.

Alternatives? Get a Lee taper crimp die (inexpensive). Get a progressive press (more expensive). Get a max cartridge headspace gauge (Midwayusa.com).

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Ok thank you.



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