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Old 09-28-2013, 10:35 PM   #11
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Sorry it took a while to back to y'all. I FL size all my cases I messed my dies and its still doing the samething. I trim all my brass after i size them. But its only happening with Winchester brass but it works find with Remington brass.
Winchester brass can be a real hit and miss at times in terms of QA.
Try screwing the dies down on the Winchester brass and see how that goes.
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Yeah I agree with Hairbear that Winchester brass can be a pain in the ass at times,after you've FLR 1 case put it in the rifle and close the bolt as I previously mentioned and if it doesn't close wind the die down a little at a time and re chamber it,it should fix the problem unless you've ruined the die somehow....hope that helps...cheers

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Old 09-29-2013, 12:20 AM   #13
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Alright guys I took my gun and shells to the gunshop I buy most my stuff at and he looked them over and he told me they was wore out.

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Wore out? Brass does not wear out. It can become work hardened, cracked, develop incipient head separation, but not really wear out.

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And I'll bet he offered to sell you some.

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What he was meaning is this is the last go around for them this is the fifth time I loaded. them and they are bulging at the bottom and no matter how I set my die it won't get rid of the bulge. I spent hours last night tinkering with my dies and it did no good.

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What he was meaning is this is the last go around for them this is the fifth time I loaded. them and they are bulging at the bottom and no matter how I set my die it won't get rid of the bulge. I spent hours last night tinkering with my dies and it did no good.
Something isn't right here.

Brass doesn't bulge at the bottom and wear out. It becomes brittle/work hardened in the neck and shoulder area. This work hardened brass can be brought back to life by annealing the necks.

Got a picture of these "bulged at the bottom" cases?
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I think mseric has got something here. Pictures of these cases will definitely help us work out what is or has happened.
Get a piece of tie wire or something similar about the length of 2 cases long and put a bend or "leg" in 1 end like a small "L" shape.

Now insert this "L" shape bit of wire into the empty case and see if you can feel a furrow that is about 2/3rds of the way down the inside of the case.
If you do feel a furrow then that case is stuffed as it's about to split which is incipient case separation due to brittle brass and a lot of work.

Have you measured the length of your cases as they may be too long and need trimming back to a minimum length which is 2.160" long and this may be causing the die to actually crush the case down causing the bulge.

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Sorry it took a while to back to y'all. I FL size all my cases I messed my dies and its still doing the samething. I trim all my brass after i size them. But its only happening with Winchester brass but it works find with Remington brass.
Can you be more specific as to what you did with your FL die?

There really isn't a lot of "Messing" that can be done to get FL sized brass to chamber.

Basically, screw the die into the press until it contacts the shell holder.
Lower the ram and screw the die into the press 1/4 turn More.

Lube and size a fired case. See if it chambers and extracts with ease. If yes, your are done Lock it down and double check. If No, screw the die into the press a little at a time until it does chamber.
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Can you be more specific as to what you did with your FL die?

There really isn't a lot of "Messing" that can be done to get FL sized brass to chamber.

Basically, screw the die into the press until it contacts the shell holder.
Lower the ram and screw the die into the press 1/4 turn More.

Lube and size a fired case. See if it chambers and extracts with ease. If yes, your are done Lock it down and double check. If No, screw the die into the press a little at a time until it does chamber.
I screwed my die in tell it touched the shell holder. then sized a case and tried it and I kept screwing it down a little at a time. but it was still hard to close my bolt handle thats why I took it to him thinking he can point out what's wrong and thats when he told my cases was worn out and I should toss them. I got pictures of them but not enuff service to post them I have to wait till I go to town.
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