How not to load a cap and ball pistol
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Gear & Accessories > Ammunition & Reloading > How not to load a cap and ball pistol

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-06-2009, 04:10 AM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 9
Default How not to load a cap and ball pistol

This is not only a good story, but a lesson for those that would buy a gun and not read the manual that comes with it. It also will give you a few tips on how to load a cap and ball black powder pistol. (or how not to load it)
This story starts at the home of my shooting buddy and fellow teacher, Dave. We were sitting around his den talking guns and looking over his black powder replica pistol. And the door bell rang.
It turned out to be his nephew. His wife's sister's boy. I'll change his name to hide the guilty.
Let's call him Jason.
Now Jason was and still is, a rich spoiled brat. Dave's sister-and-law married well and Jason has money to burn. He is such a obnoxious young man that he even has to buy his enemies. He flaunts his money and generally is a pest.
He came to see his aunt but kept hanging around us. He obviously over heard Dave and I talking about going to the range the next day and shoot Dave's new cap and ball revolver.
So here we are at the range and Jason shows up.
"Hi Guys, look what I got!!" And he displayed a brand new, in the presentation box, 3rd generation Colt cap and ball Navy pistol, with all the accessories of course. "It cost me $1200 dollars" he bragged.
"Yeah Yeah Jason," I mumbled and went back to loading my cheap $100 replica. After I was loaded up I happened to glance down the bench and saw Jason with a lead ball sitting on top of the muzzle and he was trying to force it down the barrel.
I went over to him and said, "Jason it doesn't go in the barrel it goes down here in the cylinder."
"Ohh," he commented, "I know that, I was just checking to see if it fit"
I went back to my shooting.
Finished one round and looked over at Jason. He was hammering the lead ball into the cylinder with the end of a hunting knife.
"Jason, look here, there is a real neat little lever built right into the pistol and with it you can swage the ball in very easily." I said.
"Ohh, I knew that," he said, "I was just checking to see if it would fit."
This time I kept my eye on him and when he was all done I went over to make sure he did it right.
"Very good, Jason, you got them all in, a little battered maybe, but in. What charge of powder did you use?" I asked.
"Powder?" Jason queried?
So I got my tools and took the nipples out and managed to push all the battered up lead balls out the cylinder.
As I was shooting now I couldn't watch Jason all the time and Dave told me later that Jason did not use a powder measure but just poured the cylinders full of 3F black powder and then rammed the flattened lead ball back on top on all.. that powder.
We had stopped shooting and from down the bench we heard Jason. "Hey guys watch this!"
BOOOOM
And Jason disappeared in a cloud of smoke.
OH MY GOD! I Yelled! And ran to the end of the bench.
I waved my hat around to get rid of the smoke so I could find what was left of Jason. Finally he appeared. His face was as black as a minstrels and his eyes were bugged out like a lizard. In his hand he held only the frame of the Colt.
And he said. "WOW"! And that was all. His first shot with that beautiful Colt cost him $1200
What did he do wrong? Everything. But the last thing he really did wrong was not putting some sealant over each and every chamber. We use commercial sealant or even Crisco works good. Just smear enough over the bullets to seal them. You see with black powder guns, the first chamber going off sends a blast of flame all over the front of the cylinder. If you do not seal the chambers the flame will actually get under the bullet in the chambers on each side and set off a chain reaction. In microseconds all 6 of the chambers go off at once. As they did with Jason. He came out of it with only some burns but.....he could have been injured fatally.
If he had only read the Manufactures safety booklet.
Sarge

__________________
sarge257 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 08-06-2009, 09:56 PM   #2
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
robocop10mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Austin,Texas, by God!!
Posts: 10,104
Liked 2767 Times on 1446 Posts
Likes Given: 241

Default

That is freaking funny right there except a beautiful piece of art had to pay the price for one person's stupidity.

__________________

In life, strive to take the high road....It offers a better field of fire.
"Robo is right" Fuzzball

robocop10mm is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2009, 01:05 AM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 260
Default ideot

thats known as culling the dead wood.or geting rid of undesireables.they did not bring him up to well and he could of killed a shooter or spectater.and that would be even funnier.

__________________
WILDCATT is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2009, 02:15 PM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
W. C. Quantrill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Between Paradise and the Garden of Eden
Posts: 566
Liked 36 Times on 33 Posts
Likes Given: 17

Default

Tell that boy to come see me, I will assist him with that money problem he has.

__________________
W. C. Quantrill is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2009, 04:58 PM   #5
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
CA357's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oregon
Posts: 19,871
Liked 1175 Times on 510 Posts
Likes Given: 2978

Default

I nominate him for a junior Darwin Award.

__________________
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”Samuel Adams
CA357 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2009, 06:51 PM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
divinginn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: North Georgia
Posts: 207
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

That is the main reason I have never shot my navy revolver kit gun,I read in the manual about chain fires and it discouraged me from firing it.

__________________
divinginn is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2009, 11:35 PM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 489
Liked 43 Times on 31 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by divinginn View Post
That is the main reason I have never shot my navy revolver kit gun,I read in the manual about chain fires and it discouraged me from firing it.
have fired my 1858 remington replica over a thousand times with no chain fires. crisco is cheap! black powder pistols are a hoot to shoot! I own a lot of guns but none of them are as fun to shoot as my black powder pistol.
__________________
tiberius10721 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2009, 11:27 AM   #8
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
TXnorton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Katy,Texas
Posts: 1,376
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by divinginn View Post
That is the main reason I have never shot my navy revolver kit gun,I read in the manual about chain fires and it discouraged me from firing it.
Cabellas, Bass Pro, Midway, and DGW all sell "revolver buttons/wads". These are lubricated felt wads that you insert over your powder before seating the ball. These are supposed to help prevent chain fires (as well as using a properly oversized ball). I have shot many hundreds of rounds through my Walker-Colt using the revolver buttons with no problems.
__________________

TXnorton

TXnorton is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2009, 01:01 PM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
RL357Mag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Albany,New York
Posts: 3,251
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts

Default

Try T/C Bore Butter or T/C Natural Lube 1000. It is an excellent patch lube as well as a great cylinder grease. It's non-petroleum based and will prevent fouling build-up and extend the number of rounds between cleanings.

__________________
Guns Have Only Two Enemies-Rust and Politicians
"The United States Constitution (c) 1791 - All Rights Reserved"
If Guns Kill, Do Pencils Mis-spell Words?
Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body - USMC
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum"
RL357Mag is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2009, 01:12 AM   #10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
divinginn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: North Georgia
Posts: 207
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

Maybe one of these days,I think I am glad I did not shoot it,the manual said nothing about using grease ect. in it. not that I remember but it has been about 15 years since I have built it. Out of the 40-50 guns I have had it is the only one I have never fired,I do have a muzzle loading rifle I deer hunt with.

__________________
divinginn is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
7.62MALAYSIAN ball anygood? m72law Ammunition & Reloading 8 07-19-2009 01:25 AM
Sportsmans Guide Has 9MM Ball In Stock billt Ammunition & Reloading 1 05-23-2009 03:22 PM
7.62x51mm ball ammo laynejc Ammunition & Reloading 2 12-14-2008 04:21 PM
Goof Ball Criminal BigO01 The Club House 14 07-11-2008 11:33 AM