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Old 03-16-2011, 07:03 PM   #1
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Default how long do hydra shoks last?

I bought a box of hydra shoks 2 years ago and they have been inside the magazines since then. what is their usual lifespan?



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Old 03-16-2011, 07:51 PM   #2
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depends on local weather and humidity. a salt water environment like a coastal city you might want to change frequently. or if your in the bad habit of allowing oil to coat your ammo. they should last many years. ammo made for ww1 and ww2 still function fine today.

i rotate my sd ammo out each year more to keep myself familiarized with the feel of shooting it than any reliability issues.



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How long do they last? Until about an 1/16th of a second after piercing flesh. Wakka!

I would recommend rotating your carry ammo at least once a year if not twice, just to stay current.

There is a belief, and I we are going to test that here at FTF if SOMEONE ( Scubie ) ever gets around to it, that having loaded ammo in a "wet" gun can cause your oil to "creep" and effect the primer, thus giving you a squib or a Fail to Fire. We still need to verify or debunk that one.

Personally? I change my carry ammo at least once a calendar year, more if I can find what I carry on sale.

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It better last a long time. I have some in the drawer that I bought well over 10 years ago. My thought is that if it isn't subjected to moisture or a firing pin it should be just fine.

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How long do they last? Until about an 1/16th of a second after piercing flesh. Wakka!

I would recommend rotating your carry ammo at least once a year if not twice, just to stay current.

There is a belief, and I we are going to test that here at FTF if SOMEONE ( Scubie ) ever gets around to it, that having loaded ammo in a "wet" gun can cause your oil to "creep" and effect the primer, thus giving you a squib or a Fail to Fire. We still need to verify or debunk that one.

Personally? I change my carry ammo at least once a calendar year, more if I can find what I carry on sale.

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i can tell ya first hand this is true and scary. in our arms room the previous armorer to me would oil the 45acp rounds in the live duty ammo safe. they would sit primer up nose down in the cartons. he learned this from the armorer before him and so on. when i discovered this practice i asked our commander if we could rotate the ammo and test fire the old stuff. he agreed. i did the paperwork. if memmory serves i think it was 15 or so out of 200 of the rounds fired failed to ignite the powder resulting in squibs with bullets stuck in the barrels. all primers fired.

they had been using clp and wd40 to "clean" abd "preserve" the rounds.

these bullets our mp's had been relying on for years to be in good condition.

from that point our commander enacted a duty ammo yearly rotation policy.
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i can tell ya first hand this is true and scary. in our arms room the previous armorer to me would oil the 45acp rounds in the live duty ammo safe. they would sit primer up nose down in the cartons. he learned this from the armorer before him and so on. when i discovered this practice i asked our commander if we could rotate the ammo and test fire the old stuff. he agreed. i did the paperwork. if memmory serves i think it was 15 or so out of 200 of the rounds fired failed to ignite the powder resulting in squibs with bullets stuck in the barrels. all primers fired.

they had been using clp and wd40 to "clean" abd "preserve" the rounds.

these bullets our mp's had been relying on for years to be in good condition.

from that point our commander enacted a duty ammo yearly rotation policy.
And this is not the first time I have heard this type of story. I had a cop buddy, SWAT teamer / Door Breacher who told me very early on in my shooting career to NEVER clean or lubricate your weapon with WD-40 because it can "seep" as much as 24 inches in 24 hours. He explained that seepage into and around the primers COULD cause Failures to Fire and/or squibs.

Since that early lesson I have heard other people say the same thing. Rotate ammo because you don't want to worry about your gun lube seeping into the primers.

We have a plan to test this and post the results. Scubie has just been SUPER busy down on the border, but he has already staged several types of ammo and has subjected the primers to various types of oils and methods ( drips, droplets, wiping, etc. ) so it will be interesting to see the results.

Me? I hedge on better safe than sorry and rotate my ammo in my mags and when I get through a box, it goes to the range and gets shot up. Then replaced.

Why risk it?
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I rotate carry ammo 1X yearly. A box of 50 a year/gun will not break the bank.

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I shoot and replace my "social purpose" loads once a year. That is, before that horrible boating accident. Your loads should be good longer than you will be.

As far as the effective of varied oils and cleaners- The Box O' Truth #39 - Oil Vs. Primers - Page 1

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I never saw the need to lube or preserve ammo.

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I do not lubricate my ammo for any reason. I am cycling my ammo, and am still working on burning through some of my older re-loads from the 1980's. I have had very very few FTF with that older ammo. These old re-loads have been stored in ammo cans in an air conditioned environment for all of these years.



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