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Old 04-15-2012, 07:09 AM   #11
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personally i like the Hornady XTP in 45 ACP or their Critical Defence ammo is good. i also use their XTP bullets in reloads for practice so as to be pretty close in performance as the factory loads. i also use their XTP bullets in 44 for my 44 magnum. Hornady has some excellent bullets.

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Old 04-15-2012, 07:23 AM   #12
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Seems like someone got to get on board with their facts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Arms

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The simple truth is that almost any 45acp JHP (especially American made) will perform exceptionally provided your gun cycles it well. We all have our preferences. I like Winchester Rangers, as I'm able to pick them up in 50rd boxes for $30 or less. That's really tough to beat. I also like to top-load my mags/chamber with CorBon Pow'rball. It's supposed to penetrate light barriers (like auto glass) without expanding and will essentially feed like ball in the vast majority of guns.

In my experience the following will all do their part:

Winchester- Everything. Ranger, PDX, Silvertip...even cheapo WWB JHPs.
Federal- Everything. Hydras, EMFJs, and even budget Hi-Shocks.
Hornady- Everything.
Remington- Golden Saber. I won't touch anything else they make for pistols.
Speer- Gold Dot. Good "value" buy like Rangers.
Fiocchi- Always performs well for me.
CorBon/DoubleTap/Buffalo Bore/Black Hills- Spendy, but quality.

Plenty of others will do quite well too. But that's all I have experience with in handgun ammunition. Personally, I've been very unimpressed with the quality of the cheaper Remington stuff for both rifles and pistols. Their cheaper SG bird/buck runs great for me. But in my opinion the Golden Saber is an excellent defense round.

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Seems like someone got to get on board with their facts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Arms
and when was that posted. you can't go by wikipedia its not a factual website
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When they first started talking about stoping the black talon production, i bought it whenever i could find it. I'm proud to say i have a great supply, over 6,000 rounds in 3 diferent calibers. I still see them once in awhile at LGS. Other than that i like the silvertips.

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federal hst looks good, wonder if i can find it in .357, if not loaded then just the bullets. oh, and the freedom group may have bought remington, marlin, etc, but production of those lines are in the usa, there are some lines of products that are imported, but the firearms will say on them where theyre made.

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they wanted a quick return for there money spent so instead of raising the price they moved production to hk.
It never happened.
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It never happened.
you don't have to believe it but everybody knows that the quality went down
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Remington still has a factory in Illion, NY. I was there last summer to visit the museum they have there. To bad they had stopped doing factory tours!

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I believe that but that's not there only factory. I hear there is on going process of building one in ms. I personally have noticed a drop in quality. remington used to be the only bullets I bought

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