Originally Posted by spittinfire
Let's go back a few posts....are you seriously telling me that HP ammo is illegal in NJ??
Sort of...contrary to conventional wisdom HP is not banned in NJ, it is however illegal to use it for concealed carry and also possibly in a HD situation, yes you can be charged for using unauthorized ammo during an otherwise justified defensive shooting. It is permitted for range use and is not illegal to either purchase or possess.
As the story goes the dumba** legislature was convinced that hollowpoint ammo was the same as armor piercing ammo and banned it. My favorite anecdote is that the combination of the 15 round mag limit and the banning of hollowpoints for defensive use has resulted in a lot of .40 S&W and .45 ACP guns in NJ loaded out with 180 and 230 gr FMJ...somewhat the opposite of the safe environment the dopes in Trenton were after.
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