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Old 12-28-2007, 04:56 AM   #11
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I live in Bakersfield, CA and mid next year they are outlawing lead ammo for hunters to preserve the condors here that have "eaten animal remains containing lead buckshot and that is the main reason that this freakin bird is kicking over". what will replace this ammo in a 22 target round, and at what price?

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I'm guessing it will be replaced with something like bismuth. It is also used as a replacement for steel shot that is used for waterfowl. The cost? Expect to pay at least twice the cost of standard ammo.

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Old 12-29-2007, 12:06 AM   #13
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currently there is no substitute for .22 lr ammo, but I suspect we might see them come up with maybe a tin bullet, tin is light and might be heavy enough to make a 22 out of. All copper bullets like barnes makes will be favored for hunting bullet designs and are apparently on the "list of legal ammo". Steel shot has been used for years for waterfowl, but I'm having a discussion with someone on another site about legality of using it in those regions as it is "not officially listed" as yet. Same goes for tungsten iron, tungsten polymer, and bismuth.

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Teflon coated ammunition is illegal in AL. But hollow points are fine.
Some people have this misconception on Alabama law. It says you cannot possess or sell or aquire teflon-coated steel or brass core ammo. you can possess teflon-coated lead core ammo.
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Let's go back a few posts....are you seriously telling me that HP ammo is illegal in NJ??

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Let's go back a few posts....are you seriously telling me that HP ammo is illegal in NJ??
Sort of...contrary to conventional wisdom HP is not banned in NJ, it is however illegal to use it for concealed carry and also possibly in a HD situation, yes you can be charged for using unauthorized ammo during an otherwise justified defensive shooting. It is permitted for range use and is not illegal to either purchase or possess.

As the story goes the dumba** legislature was convinced that hollowpoint ammo was the same as armor piercing ammo and banned it. My favorite anecdote is that the combination of the 15 round mag limit and the banning of hollowpoints for defensive use has resulted in a lot of .40 S&W and .45 ACP guns in NJ loaded out with 180 and 230 gr FMJ...somewhat the opposite of the safe environment the dopes in Trenton were after.
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