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Old 10-04-2012, 01:19 PM   #11
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I am curious why so many use 150gr? I do use some, such as Barnes TTSX. For most shooting or hunting 165..168gr just shoot more accurately at distance. At 100 yards both are outstanding, but after 200 yards the edge goes to the heavier bullets. RL15 is fairly slow for .308, 3031 is pretty fast. IMR 4064 is a great powder for .308. It produces fast velocity w/ very consistant groups. Most loads are compacted loads, but so are RL15 w/ no real advantage of MV.
well my 150gr HP are for woodchucks.. and boy they work.. lol.
my 150gr softpoints are for deer. i rarely see deer more than 100yards where i hunt with my .308.. ofcourse where only shotgun is legal, i see um out to 300. figures.


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Your a good sport about it!!!

I am curious why so many use 150gr? I do use some, such as Barnes TTSX. For most shooting or hunting 165..168gr just shoot more accurately at distance. At 100 yards both are outstanding, but after 200 yards the edge goes to the heavier bullets. RL15 is fairly slow for .308, 3031 is pretty fast. IMR 4064 is a great powder for .308. It produces fast velocity w/ very consistant groups. Most loads are compacted loads, but so are RL15 w/ no real advantage of MV.
I'm just guessing at this but I think most use 150gr because the trajectory looks better on paper (ballistic charts). I prefer the heavy bullets myself. I shoot 180gr most of the time but I've got a slightly faster twist. Most of the people I know opt for the lighter bullets just to get a few more yards out of it without having to compensate. I also think that's why all of the mag calibers have gotten so popular?

And I use IMR 4064 in all my .308 loads. My buddy uses RL15 with good results, but I'm sold on IMR 4064. I agree it is great powder.


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Some may use lighter bullets like 150 grain because there rifles have a slower twist rate. The rifles that have a faster barrel twist can stabilize and hand heavier bullets
Actually, Most .308's are 1/12. Plenty fast twist for 165+. Most shooters/ hunters never thought about it.

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well my 150gr HP are for woodchucks.. and boy they work.. lol.
my 150gr softpoints are for deer. i rarely see deer more than 100yards where i hunt with my .308.. ofcourse where only shotgun is legal, i see um out to 300. figures.
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I'm just guessing at this but I think most use 150gr because the trajectory looks better on paper (ballistic charts). I prefer the heavy bullets myself. I shoot 180gr most of the time but I've got a slightly faster twist. Most of the people I know opt for the lighter bullets just to get a few more yards out of it without having to compensate. I also think that's why all of the mag calibers have gotten so popular?

And I use IMR 4064 in all my .308 loads. My buddy uses RL15 with good results, but I'm sold on IMR 4064. I agree it is great powder.
That is an old wives tale. A 150gr drops almost the same as a 165gr.
Difference between the 2. 150gr leads until after 350 yards.
250 yards .4"
300 yards, .6"
350 yards, .1"
The big factor is retained energy. The 168gr has almost the same retained energy at 350 yards as the 150 has at 300. When you pass 350 yards, the 165 wins in every respect. For the average hunter, they will never shoot past 150 yards, so it really does not matter. Most guys that use Magnum calibers will never use them for there intended purpose. Most will never even use them on game. It seems to be a Bravado thing. I hunt w/ a lever action .44-40 and a bolt 9.3x57. Both chuck heavy peices of lead at modest velosities and are awesome at what they were designed for. Heavy woods, .44-40 lever w/ a 205gr. Fairly open woods, small fields, 9.3x57 w/ a 270..286gr. 6.5x55, 8x57, 7mm rem mag... woods to open areas. I sold rifles that never would have gotten blooded. I still have a few. Asking for a load for .308 is like asking blonde, brunette, or red head.
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Actually, Most .308's are 1/12. Plenty fast twist for 165+. Most shooters/ hunters never thought about it.



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That is an old wives tale. A 150gr drops almost the same as a 165gr.
Difference between the 2. 150gr leads until after 350 yards.
250 yards .4"
300 yards, .6"
350 yards, .1"
The big factor is retained energy. The 168gr has almost the same retained energy at 350 yards as the 150 has at 300. When you pass 350 yards, the 165 wins in every respect. For the average hunter, they will never shoot past 150 yards, so it really does not matter. Most guys that use Magnum calibers will never use them for there intended purpose. Most will never even use them on game. It seems to be a Bravado thing. I hunt w/ a lever action .44-40 and a bolt 9.3x57. Both chuck heavy peices of lead at modest velosities and are awesome at what they were designed for. Heavy woods, .44-40 lever w/ a 205gr. Fairly open woods, small fields, 9.3x57 w/ a 270..286gr. 6.5x55, 8x57, 7mm rem mag... woods to open areas. I sold rifles that never would have gotten blooded. I still have a few. Asking for a load for .308 is like asking blonde, brunette, or red head.
All that sounds about right to me. My old stand by is a .303 British and it's pretty slow compared to most modern cartridges, but I can't count the number of deer its dropped. I think the mag calibers are overkill in most situations but that seems to be the trend?
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Depends on what you're using the ammo for.

I like to replicate military M80 ball. I use 147 FMJ, Remington 9 1/2 primers, and H335 powder. Excellent plinking load, and duplicates the military round.

For hunting, I would switch to 150 grain Speer boat tail soft points, with same powder and primer.

For match style shooting, 168 grain Sierra hollow points and IMR 4895.


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