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Old 07-31-2010, 01:32 AM   #11
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[QUOTE=cpttango30;323049]I am one big lee hater right here. Everything I have ever used of theres has been faulty of piss poor constructiion and not worth the money I paid for it.

That being said if you are wanting to get into loading your own for low cost then Lee is where you should look.

Tango,It's just a conspiracy! Lee got all the places you get your supplies from to sell you the rejects,so you would raise hell about them. LOL

Take care buddy,and good luck with your new deck. THB

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im a 550 man the square deal only loads pistol not rifles so if your thinking some day a riffle buy the 550 dillion spend the extra now and never look back i have never seen any one regret buying a dillion unless they whish they could have got the 650 in stead

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Wow thanks everyone for the responses...Im thinking it would be wise of me to save up for a nicer press and Ill get a lot more enjoyment and use out of it in the longrun!!

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Hey Patret,
What kind of press are you using...what other brands do you prefer? I have read good things about RCBS, but are quite a bit more expensive than an entry level Lee that I have my eyes on.
That will be a long answer for me. I currently use a RCBS rockchucker, C H mark 5a, Herters C press, Dillon rl 1050, Lee Load all, Pacific 650, Lee Load Master and a old 410 shotgun shell reloader I bought off e bay. Lee is ok to start. It might be the best but it works.You don`t need the best of every thing to start. You might not like reloading. It can get expensive.

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I am not a big fan of Lee presses myself but as with anyone starting out with a small amount of money get what you can afford.

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Any starting point into re-loading is a good start!

I started with a single stage RCBS press and one caliber in 1976, and 34 years later I still load thousands of rounds per year on it. But along the way I also bought a Dillon RL-450 (I upgraded it to a "B" later) in the mid 80's and recently added a Dillon RL-550B.

Like Tango, I am not overly impressed with Lee products, although the very first round I ever re-loaded was my cousin's 25-.06 with one of the Lee hand load kits. I am definately very positive on RCBS and Dillon, but that is just me.

The Dillon machines are great for high volume shooting, I don't even start a batch of .45 ACP, 9mm, or .223 until I have a minimum of 300-400 empty cases to re-load. I spend more time on case preparation than I do on the actual re-loading process.

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I'm not a Kool-Aid drinker for any brand. I've been reloading for over 45 years, have five presses now, did have others and have loaded on several owned by friends. Guess what? Given the skill to use them, they all work just fine! And any of them will last two lifetimes if they aren't abused or neglected.

I buy my tools for the features, not the color. That means I have stuff from virtually every maker. My first choice of press is not Lee because I wanted features they don't have at the time but that is NOT a put down for them. I won't even say what my favorite is because it's irrelivant for others who seek or need different features.

All that said, there is no question that Lee's Classic Cast single stage and their auto-indexing Classic Turret (the better choice for reloading some 200 rounds a week, in three calibers) are THE greatest values of their respective types. They are fully as good and in some ways better than others costing MUCH more and they both handle spent primers as well as any presses made today! In fact, I realise they're both just as good as my favorite press from an objective perspective.

Progressives are great for cranking out hundreds of the same handgun load at a time but they aren't much for developing accurate loads for rifles. In my opinion, experienced, high volume shooters suggesting noobs with much different needs get an expensive progressive press for starters, especially since changing calibers is so costly and difficult, seems illogical.

Most of us agree that noobs will be MUCH better served with a single stage until they learn a LOT about reloading. For many of us a single stage or, at most, a Lee auto-indexing turret press is all we will ever need or even want. If the noob eventually determines he wants a progressive he will have the experience to know what he needs without asking us and he will still have plenty of uses for his first press so it won't be a loss!

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Progressives are great for cranking out hundreds of the same handgun load at a time but they aren't much for developing accurate loads for rifles. In my opinion, experienced, high volume shooters suggesting noobs with much different needs get an expensive progressive press for starters, especially since changing calibers is so costly and difficult, seems illogical.
You can run a dillon 550 as a single stage. I do it for my 308 and 30-06. The 308 will shoot 1/2" with just about any load i put in her and my 30-06 is a old Remington Model 30 express will hold 3/4" to 1" with loads off of my dillon. We were just stating that they are out there no one that I seen was pushing him towards the dillon. He asked a question and we responded.

Also don't be afaride to jump on ebay and look for older presses. just make sure you can get shell holders for them and they are the std 7/8x14 dies.

Many times older presses are just as good as a new one but need to be cleaned of some surface rust with some steel wool.

VINTAGE CH RELOADING PRESS - eBay (item 160460718234 end time Aug-01-10 18:00:26 PDT)

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Lyman Spartan Reloading Press - eBay (item 300430761311 end time Aug-22-10 09:47:03 PDT)

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I still use a RCBS single stage For all my reloading and can crank out several 100 handgun loads in an hour or so not counting case prep. I been reloading for someplace around 35 years with the same press I just add a thing or two every now and then.

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if owning a dillon is drinking kool aid pour me another o heck give me the pitcure

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