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Old 07-28-2012, 01:21 AM   #11
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Maybe a dumb question, can you shoot hollowpoints or softpoints? They said no fmj, and frangible ammo is expensive.
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Osha is making range workers were environmental suits to clean up lead and fining those without proper protection. That may be why they switched ammo on you. http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=NEWS_RELEASES&p_id=2 2524
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:36 PM   #13
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Default frang. 223

I'm in Florida and my local range buys their 223 from National Police Ammunition... out of Miami i think. I have a Colt 6920...1:7 twist and their 45g sintered product is solid out to almost 200 yards.
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Maybe a dumb question, can you shoot hollowpoints or softpoints? They said no fmj, and frangible ammo is expensive.
The ultra max are soft point I am going to ask them if I can shoot them this week. Hollow points are a no go.

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As far as I know it's been this way all along. Supposedly they're afraid for their back stop so that's their reasoning for the frangible. They allow you to zero with fmj presumably because you're limiting yourself to x amount of rounds down range to affect your zero. Once it's done you have to switch to frangible. I suppose maybe if I pal around with the RO's they may look the other way for me. I only shoot about 50-60 rounds of .223 when I go anyway.
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can't shoot soft points.

I found these: Silver State Armory.

Anyone have any experience with the brand. I assume it's a 55 grain, so it should cycle better than those little stubby 42 grainers.
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can't shoot soft points.

I found these: Silver State Armory.

Anyone have any experience with the brand. I assume it's a 55 grain, so it should cycle better than those little stubby 42 grainers.
I went out to the range yesterday with these. I had to convince the RO that they were in fact frangible as they look and feel like regular 55 grain FMJ ammo.

but after much cajoling, I got the OK and they cycled perfectly through my PWS not a single malfunction as compared to the Fiocci 42 grain which gave me a 10% malfunction rate.

So, although they are a bit pricey even for frangible, I will be choosing the Silver State Armory (SSA) Ammunition 5.56x45mm NATO 55 Grain Barnes RRLP for my AR when I go to Shore Shot Range in Lakewood, NJ. Now if I can only get them to carry it in their shop...

Here is a 5 round group shot standing using my KZ sling:
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Looks like you got some keyholing going on. The one closest to the center of the x looks normal the rest look like there is some wobble happening
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Looks like you got some keyholing going on. The one closest to the center of the x looks normal the rest look like there is some wobble happening
could that be a function of the round itself, or can it be the crappy cardboard that was mostly full of holes and left the target practically waving like a flag?
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JonM, keep in mind these ARE frangible ammo, so maybe they're too soft???

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100yd group? Minute of zombie head.
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