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thefarmboy21 12-28-2012 02:59 AM

Federal boxes...whats different???
So at gun stores most of the Federal stuff seems to be in "plain Jane" white boxes. At Wally World the FMJ's are in a red box that say American Eagle or something and the JHP's are in a silver and blue box and are called Federal Classic.

Gun store owner says they're just different boxes (you know less fancy blah blah blah on the gun store boxes) SOO.....if I go to the gun shop and buy a box of Federal in a white box that are 115gr JHP's in a brass case (not the +P nickel) will they be the EXACT same as the "federal classic" 115gr FMJ?????? thanks

BeyondTheBox 12-28-2012 05:53 AM

Did you just ask if a box of JHP would be the same as one of FMJ? Or was that a error in my reading or typo in your text?

DrumJunkie 12-28-2012 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by BeyondTheBox (Post 1069039)
Did you just ask if a box of JHP would be the same as one of FMJ? Or was that a error in my reading or typo in your text?

Yup.. that's how it looked to me..Had to read it twice....:confused:

BeyondTheBox 12-28-2012 08:33 AM

I didn't mean to be a D-bag or anything, just trying to assess the level of work this is going to require.

thefarmboy21 12-28-2012 02:45 PM

Sorry guys.....what I'm asking is regardless of FMJ or JHP in a way. I'm asking if the gun store federal ammo is the same as Walmart federal ammo, but just in deferent boxes. For example:
Federal white box FMJ = Federal red box FMJ????
OR Federal white box JHP = Federal Silver box classic JHP

The Walmarts around me are all OUT of 9mm and all other handgun ammo. The gunstores have it BUT all their federal stuff is in plain WHITE boxes with black lettering. Just wondering what the difference is! Thanks

thefarmboy21 12-28-2012 03:47 PM

Yea that was a typo on my was late lol

blucoondawg 12-28-2012 03:52 PM

The Walmarts around here carry the white box as well, that is what I usually buy for plinkin ammo, 38 special and 40 s&w white box fmj

c3shooter 12-28-2012 04:24 PM

If you are referring to American Eagle 9mm, difference between red box, and red edges/white center boxes, READ THE LABEL!

One is Full Metal Jacket, the other TMJ- Total Metal Jacket- loaded to different speed, different bullet weight. No exposed lead on base of bullet.

thefarmboy21 12-29-2012 04:08 AM

No, these are solid white boxes with black lettering. The FMJ's and the JHP's both in same box just different labels.

So I guess my question boils down to this....does Federal package their ammo different for retail stores in "Fancy" boxes and give the gun shops the plain boxes.

Walmart you look at a box and know which it is but at the gun shop you have to read the label to be absolutely certain, because they are identical plain white boxes.

I AM NOT asking about the difference in what's inside the boxes be it JHP, FMJ, non coated, etc.....I know what's in the boxes. I want to know why the boxes are different at the gun shop than at Walmart. Are they the same or are they better in one box or the other.

I bought a box from the gun store and it was plain white. Gun store owner said he was out of the "American eagles" but those were the exact same but a different box. Bought a box from Walmart and it was the "American eagles." Now take them out of the box and side by side they are identical. All 50 rounds of each box identical.....all 100 total were Federal 115gr FMJ's. No differences to the naked eye but the boxes they came in. The white box shot like crap and the "American Eagles" ran better. I'm curious as to why the gun shop carries both boxes if they are in fact "the same" unless maybe they just get what they get.

robocop10mm 12-29-2012 05:43 AM

Slight difference in velocity (American Eagle abot 40 fps faster). Probably made on different machinery in different factories. Federal operates the Lake City arsenal for the feds. I would bet the AE stuff is loaded on Lake City machines.

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