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Old 11-28-2013, 10:40 PM   #11
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Yea...They don't get the oil we use from the middle-east eather but everytime they shoot-off some firecrackers over there our oil go's up in price....I'm just saying at the very least,I'm betting ammo go's-up next spring....I'm just a fool I guess....

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It aint good for any companies to shut down. Period. People need jobs.

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Every car that is imported brings in a battery. If you actuallu google lead recycling you will see that the recycling industry is producing almost all of the lead being used for anything in this country. And right across the border in Mexico they are processing the lead from Doe Run the plant that is closing.

The sky is not falling its not even raining as far as this goes.

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Perhaps I should move this to the conspiracy section. The sky is not falling. Lead prices will not be severely affected. Recycling of existing lead will continue. This does not amount to a hill of beans. Put a damp towel on your head, your hair is on fire.

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Might not be a big deal for us, but for those that loose their job, it may be.
Any factories shutting down is a bad thing.

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And yet imported ammo that has lead in it which comes from Mexico, Brazil, Chech Republic, Slovakia, Russia, etc. is still cheap. Their lead is smelted somewhere, and its still heavy, and it still costs less after shipping.

This has been going on for years. I don't see how shutting down one if the smallest contributors to the overall lead supply will have any drastic impact on, supply or pricing. Unless, of course gun owners continue to be their own worst enemy and freak the heck out and buy up all if the ammo on the shelves due to some contrived panic.

Calm down. Take a breath and realize that this is not a major hit in the supply chain. Try to calm others instead of giving a new "crisis" to freak out about, and idiotically dry up the ammo shelves.

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Yes it is bad when a business shuts down. We lost jobs people are not working and not putting money back into the system. But, really when I looked it up they didn't make even a tiny drop of what lead we use for anything. Like said above lead recycling is where it is at now. There are also big companies that reclaim lead from shooting ranges. Most of them don't charge you the range owner/ operator to reclaim it they make all their profit from selling the reclaimed lead to the recyclers. They had 6 years to retro fit the factory to meet emission requirements and they choose to close. So blame them, the owners of the company.

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It looks to this Albertan like the EPA is your 4th branch of government.
Ugh. You're not too far from the truth. Please tell us it's better north of the border.
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Regardless of the effect this may or may not have on ammo, I plan to get myself a cap and ball revolver anyway, and cast my own bullets. Mostly because I have a nearly unlimited, albeit kinda slow, supply of unalloyed lead scrap.

I also have recipes for blackpowder I plan to try out.

If my own powder works out, all I'll need are caps.

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Regardless of the effect this may or may not have on ammo, I plan to get myself a cap and ball revolver anyway, and cast my own bullets. Mostly because I have a nearly unlimited, albeit kinda slow, supply of unalloyed lead scrap.

I also have recipes for blackpowder I plan to try out.

If my own powder works out, all I'll need are caps.
Or a conversion to flint.
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