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Old 05-30-2014, 03:22 AM   #1
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I currently load on a Lee 4 hole turret press and do ok to get in the 150 per hour range. I prime off the press. My son has recently started competing and has been practicing for a while. Our consumption of 9mm is elevating significantly. My reloading guru is recommending a Square Deal dedicated to 9mm. He is a Dillon dealer. The other 5 pistol calibers and 3 rifle calibers would stay on the Lee Turret.

Here are a couple questions:

1. Does it seem like a Square Deal is the way to go given my needs?
2. Is a case feeder/bullet feeder a potential future option on the Square Deal?
3. Is $379 the going price or are better price available?
4. Could a solid case be made for spending the extra $$$ to get a 650?
5. How much width does a Square Deal need on a bench?
6. Would I be better off looking at a Hornady AP press?

I have a limited amount of space if I want the Lee to stay permantly mounted to the bench. The Dillon would have to be taken on and off the bench when needed.

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I currently load on a Lee 4 hole turret press and do ok to get in the 150 per hour range. I prime off the press. My son has recently started competing and has been practicing for a while. Our consumption of 9mm is elevating significantly. My reloading guru is recommending a Square Deal dedicated to 9mm. He is a Dillon dealer. The other 5 pistol calibers and 3 rifle calibers would stay on the Lee Turret.

Here are a couple questions:

1. Does it seem like a Square Deal is the way to go given my needs?
2. Is a case feeder/bullet feeder a potential future option on the Square Deal?
3. Is $379 the going price or are better price available?
4. Could a solid case be made for spending the extra $$$ to get a 650?
5. How much width does a Square Deal need on a bench?
6. Would I be better off looking at a Hornady AP press?

I have a limited amount of space if I want the Lee to stay permantly mounted to the bench. The Dillon would have to be taken on and off the bench when needed.
Well, those are some excellent questions. My short answers are: yes, no, yes, yes, less than a foot & no. lol Now, seriously, a Square Deal dedicated to 9mm is what I have and I feel it can't be beat, but I feel if you spend the extra for the 650 you will take your Lee off the bench before long and only use the 650. The Dillon's are so good and so easy to use, you'll find yourself wondering why you ever used anything else.
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I currently load on a Lee 4 hole turret press and do ok to get in the 150 per hour range. I prime off the press. My son has recently started competing and has been practicing for a while. Our consumption of 9mm is elevating significantly. My reloading guru is recommending a Square Deal dedicated to 9mm. He is a Dillon dealer. The other 5 pistol calibers and 3 rifle calibers would stay on the Lee Turret.

Here are a couple questions:

1. Does it seem like a Square Deal is the way to go given my needs?
2. Is a case feeder/bullet feeder a potential future option on the Square Deal?
3. Is $379 the going price or are better price available?
4. Could a solid case be made for spending the extra $$$ to get a 650?
5. How much width does a Square Deal need on a bench?
6. Would I be better off looking at a Hornady AP press?

I have a limited amount of space if I want the Lee to stay permantly mounted to the bench. The Dillon would have to be taken on and off the bench when needed.
1. No. Its pretty much the same speed as your current four hole press. Its component handling that's slowing it up

2. No

3. Probably

4. Yes. You can use existing dies on the 650 changing calibers is fast once you have done it a few times. Loading pistol or rifle is fast if I didn't mention it. You only need to handle the bullets if you go with a case feeder.

5. Bout the same as the current setup. If you go 550 or 650 you can put the other pressin a box and not worry about it...

6. Definately not. Its not even a serious consideration compaired to any dillon.

If you go with a 650 you won't ever need to put the other press on the bench... the 650 uses standard and dillon dies. I don't recomend the square deal because you only use special dies in pistol calibers. Its the only press dillon makes I don't like. The 650 is a bit pricey but its worth it. Especially with roller handle bullet tray strong mount and case feeder.
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You can go at a comfortable pace and do about 300 rounds an hour with the SD. If you hustle you can do 400.

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I made an offer on a SD on another forum's classified. It did not work out, someone else bought it.

I just did not want to be locked into straight neck, pistol only for that kind I'd investment.

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As JonM stated, the biggest down side for the SDB is proprietary Dies. They work only with the SDB. I think the SDB does have dies for about every pistol caliber known. But if you want to upgrade the SDB to a 550/650/1050, you have to sell the dies and start over.

I started on a 550b and used it for 16 years. I had tool heads + dies for at least 6 pistol caliber and 3 rifle caliber. But reloading rifle cartridges on these presses is a 2 state process. Thats where you loose the most time. But on a 650, you can get a case feeder that does rifle cartridges. SO the time I lost by handling the rifle brass twice on the 550, I saved it because of the 650 with a case feeder. When I upgraded to the 650 7 years ago, I kept all of the dies and sold the 550 and all of the toolheads. I sold the press for more than I paid for it in 1988 along with the empty tool heads.

The real question is "Are you ever going to load rifle cartridges" ? NO = 550b YES = 650.

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As JonM stated, the biggest down side for the SDB is proprietary Dies. They work only with the SDB. I think the SDB does have dies for about every pistol caliber known. But if you want to upgrade the SDB to a 550/650/1050, you have to sell the dies and start over.

I started on a 550b and used it for 16 years. I had tool heads + dies for at least 6 pistol caliber and 3 rifle caliber. But reloading rifle cartridges on these presses is a 2 state process. Thats where you loose the most time. But on a 650, you can get a case feeder that does rifle cartridges. SO the time I lost by handling the rifle brass twice on the 550, I saved it because of the 650 with a case feeder. When I upgraded to the 650 7 years ago, I kept all of the dies and sold the 550 and all of the toolheads. I sold the press for more than I paid for it in 1988 along with the empty tool heads.

The real question is "Are you ever going to load rifle cartridges" ? NO = 550b YES = 650.
no rifle should = SD not 550b. You can load rifle cartridges on the 550b.
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A 650 all the way....you will not regret.

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Went with the SDB in 9mm. Working on getting it setup now. Bell was set way too heavy but the primer system seems like it's going to be nice. Should have it up and running by tomorrow. Need a couple bolts to get it attached to the bench solidly.

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