I use the carbide dies for 556 on my 650 but its not needed. Any 223/556 dies with the standard press threading work in the 650
You still gotta lube them whether they are carbide or not.
Only reason i got the carbide ones is i found em at a gunshow for less than new standard die prices.
The reason dillon offers carbide 223/556 is that a lot of outfits use them for mass producing ammo for gunclubs, retail sales, police training etc where many hundreds of thousands are being cranked out. Under that use carbide is cost effective
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Last edited by JonM; 05-22-2012 at 04:16 AM.