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LtpLegend 06-11-2009 03:08 AM

Could Use Help Old RCBS Jr Reloader
 
I have this old re-loader in the basement with some old instructions with no pictures =(

If anyone knows if I have all the pieces I need minus a Dye which I figured out I would greatly appreciate the help.

Also if you know where I could find a Thirty Aught Six Dye and a .35 maybe even a 7.62 NATO!

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I don't know how to use the thing and have been reading the book and instructions with it but its been difficult with little progress. The only Thing I have ever reloaded before is 12 and 20 gauge shotgun shells =)

cpttango30 06-11-2009 03:27 AM

Yes you have everything but your dies and powder it looks like.

To get dies go to one of the following I would also pick up the book ABC's of reloading.

Midsouth Shooters Supply, Reloading, Air Guns, Optics, Muzzleloaders & Shooting Supplies

MidwayUSA — Shooting Supplies, Reloading, Gunsmithing, Hunting, Ammunition, Gun Parts & Rifle Scopes

1hole 06-11-2009 03:38 AM

And a loading manual. Preferably a Lyman.

BILLYBOB44 06-11-2009 03:49 AM

Ltp loading
 
Ltp, as Tango has said Midway is a great supplier for equip.+also the book ABC's of Reloading. I also like the current Lyman Handbook. Mine is the Lyman 48th edition, but I think the 49th edition is currently in print?? Try your Public Library, they may have any of these books?? I have an older RCBS RockChucker press that has served(and still does) me well. I don't know if the JR model has enough leverage to EASYLY re-size 30-06/.308 brass. Be sure to use case lube on your brass, or you WILL have to learn how to use a stuck case remover-this I know from 1st hand knowledge:pHA Read through the books that you can obtain,and get a general feel for your equipt. If after that, feel free to ask any of us any particular question on the hand-loading process:D

LtpLegend 06-11-2009 03:53 AM

I found maybe 15 dies for RCBS for a Thirty Aught Six do you need multiple Dies for crimping or trimming and fitting or something? or is it a one shot deal? How do you know which length to use too?

jeepcreep927 06-11-2009 07:44 AM

You simply need the standard 2 die set from RCBS. The set will contain a full length sizing/ decapping die and a bullet seating die. The seating die is adjusted down to apply the crimp. I have yet to crimp while loading for .308 (bolt action) or .223, which now only goes through my Encore single shot. If used in the AR, my .223 rounds will get a crimp.

Your cartridge length is measured with a caliper and you trim them on a case trimmer. I think the trim dies you refer to from Midway are for forming a cartridge case using the 30-06 as the parent case, i.e. 7.62x39 from 30-06. In that instance you are shortening the case significantly, changing shoulder angles, etc.

BILLYBOB44 06-11-2009 01:17 PM

Ltp has 15 06 dies?
 
Ltp, as stated before reading a current loading manual will answer some of these ques. As JeepCreep said, the standard 2 die set will load the 06. Look closely at each die, and read what they say. The std. size die will have "30-06 FL. Size"=Full length size. All of the size dies should have a decap stem screwed into them. You may also have Neck size dies. They will say Neck on them? The other die should say "30-06 Seater". Most of the seater dies are pretty much standard. You may also have file type trim dies. They will say "30-06 Trim". After FL sizeing, place the case in the trim die, to the top of the press stroke, and file off any case material that is above the die surface. You then take a de-burring tool to chamfer the inside/outside of the trimmed case. Again get a book+read up:D

RL357Mag 06-11-2009 02:40 PM

If you want to save time measuring and trimming brass buy the Lee Pilot/Lock stud/Cutter. It costs about $7 from MidsouthShootersSupply.Com. No measuring involved. There are pilots for each caliber. Place the pilot in the shell casing and turn the cutter by hand (or you can chuck it in a cordless drill). If the case is too long, the cutter trims it to spec, if it doesn't need trimming, no material is removed! It's the fastest method of trimming on the market, and that's important when you have several hundred cases to trim. AS far as crimping goes, be careful. You cannot use the seating die to crimp bullets that do not have a cannelure - for this you need a "Factory Crimp" die. Read up on "roll crimps" and "taper crimps". Again, Lee sells a 3-die set that includes a "Factory crimp" die - for $26.

cpttango30 06-11-2009 03:18 PM

As for dies.

You need fl sizing dies set which is a 2 die set one resizes ther cases the other seats the bullet and roll crimps the round all in one.

Other sets may have neck sizer dies or competition seating dies.

If you want RCBS dies get the X-die you will never have to trim brass again. Remember than Lee, RCBS, Hornady, Reading, Forester and others will all fit your press. RL likes Lee dies as do a lot of people. I prefer RCBS and Hornady and can't afford Reading dies. The nice thing about the Lee dies are that they come with the best crimp die around the lee factory crimp. I am ot a big fan of lee products as any one on here will tell you but that lee FCD is the best thing going for a crimp die. I like hornady dies because of the seater as it aligns and holds the bullets before they enter the die body thus reducing the dreaded black finger nail of pain and crying. I curse every reloader has had at least once. Or the Blood blister from the nether world.

Books you need at least
ABC's of Reloading
Lymans Reloading Manual
and any and all free reloading manuals from the web on the powders you are using. Hodgdon even has a online searchable database for loads. Very nice set up and very nice easy to use functions.

LtpLegend 06-11-2009 03:23 PM

Thank you for your help guys. Yes, Billy reading will help but also asking on a Forum that is intended to help people helps as well since I can not ask my book specific questions. As I said before too the book I have is very vague and it assumes I know what all the part names are and the procedure. I just wanted to make sure I had all the right parts first before trying to figure it out step by step.


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