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RipRoar 10-02-2007 04:22 PM

Could Bullets Be Dangerous?
 
If you are loading a clip wrong or loading a clip too hard is it possible to make the bullet go off accidentally when you're shoving it into the clip?

Without the physics of the barrel forcing the bullet into a certain path, wouldn't a bullet that went off without being in a gun be significantly weaker?

What if your gun is jammed and your messing with it trying to get stuck bullets out, can heat from inner parts of your gun touch the tiny fuse on the end of the bullet and cause it to go off without being tapped by the firing mechanism?

BLS33 10-02-2007 04:30 PM

I don't see that as being very probable, first off chances are you won't be loading a "clip" it will most likely be a magazine (whether internal in the gun, or external). Also when a round goes off in space it most likely won't be lethal because the gas is not being concentrated and forcing the bullet to escape at a high velocity. You would have to be pretty dense to be rough enough with ammo to cause an accidental discharge, unless the ammo had some preexisting condition causing it to do so.

bkt 10-02-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RipRoar (Post 9121)
If you are loading a clip wrong or loading a clip too hard is it possible to make the bullet go off accidentally when you're shoving it into the clip?

No. Rounds are capable of taking a lot of harsh abuse without going off.

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Originally Posted by RipRoar (Post 9121)
Without the physics of the barrel forcing the bullet into a certain path, wouldn't a bullet that went off without being in a gun be significantly weaker?

That's correct. Without a chamber and barrel to direct the force, a round going off (as it would if thrown into a campfire, say) would have significantly less force and would probably not be lethal.

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Originally Posted by RipRoar (Post 9121)
What if your gun is jammed and your messing with it trying to get stuck bullets out, can heat from inner parts of your gun touch the tiny fuse on the end of the bullet and cause it to go off without being tapped by the firing mechanism?

No, neither the primer nor the powder in the casing will ignite due to residual heat from the chamber.

XLRAE 10-02-2007 06:34 PM

How much abuse can they take by your estimate?

bkt 10-02-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by XLRAE (Post 9145)
How much abuse can they take by your estimate?

Well, you can drop them -- or even throw them forcefully -- against a hard surface, crush them, and expose them to heat that would burn skin and they won't go off.

I don't recommend deliberately mistreating ammunition, but you don't need to treat it like it's an unstable high explosive that will blow you to pieces if you look at it cross-eyed.

Jay 10-02-2007 09:11 PM

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an unstable high explosive that will blow you to pieces if you look at it cross-eyed
...I've had that happen with people before, but never ammunition......:eek: :D

rickrem700 10-03-2007 05:00 AM

Ammo
 
Amunition discharged outside of a firearm will probably not kill you, at least not with the bullet, when loose rounds are detenated the bullet really dose not go anywhere, its the brass that you have to watch out for as it goes flying in direction it is pointed in .

robocop10mm 10-03-2007 01:21 PM

Dangerous?
 
It would be almost impossible to cause a round to fire while loading a magazine.
There is the possibility that an unfired round being extracted manually from the chamber of an auto loading pistol striking the ejector and going off. You should keep your hand clear of the ejection port when removing a live round.

1hole 10-07-2007 10:59 PM

"can heat from inner parts of your gun touch the tiny fuse on the end of the bullet and cause it to go off " ?

I'm not sure I follow you. Bullets are, by definition, inert metal and are harmless unless/until they are fired out of a contained cartridge, usually from a gun.

There are no fuses at all on bullets, even tracer bullets have no fuse, as such. Only explosive shells have a fuse, bullets do not. ???

jberry 10-13-2007 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 1hole (Post 9621)
"can heat from inner parts of your gun touch the tiny fuse on the end of the bullet and cause it to go off ?" ?

A round left chambered in a very hot barrel can go off - it's called a "cook-off." Very rare except in fully automatic weapons, which can get blazing hot with extended firing...
Otherwise, ammunition is quite safe, barring willful and violent abuse (no sledgehammers, please :)


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