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Old 10-20-2013, 04:12 PM   #11
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22 is and always will be THE CHEAPEST. there is a difference between price and availability. even at the absolute MOST ridiculous level of 22 price gouging, the price was only starting to approach the price of 9mm.

the 22 prob is temporary. however, whenever you see 22 at a decent price from here on out, i would pick up a brick. i'm at the point (never thought it would happen) where i will keep 2000 rounds of 22 or more at all times. its cheap and small, so there is no reason not to keep a decent supply so that you can shoot when the next drought comes. its sad that this is how it is...but it just is....

9mm is fairly cheap for a centerfire round.....but if you want "shoot all day w/o hurting the wallet" cheap.....22 is the last word.

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Yeah, if you are going to buy a gun strictly for target shooting. 22 is the way to go. If you want to defend yourself with it. 9mm is probably your cheapest route.
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The other things about your question are:

1) There's .22 and then there's .22. The cheapest rimfire ammo is inconsistent, prone to FTF, FTE or other issues. The top quality match ammo is consistent, reliable, etc., and is as expensive as centerfire. There was lots of choice in between when it was available.

2) I can shoot all day with my .22s, it's easy. I wouldn't want to with my 9mm. People can post all they want about 'practicing the fundamentals', but shooting larger calibers isn't about initial sight picture, it's about regaining the target and pulling off follow up shots. I'd never have a whole of that in me with 9mm. It hurts my wrist just thinking about it.

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The other things about your question are:

1) There's .22 and then there's .22. The cheapest rimfire ammo is inconsistent, prone to FTF, FTE or other issues. The top quality match ammo is consistent, reliable, etc., and is as expensive as centerfire. There was lots of choice in between when it was available.
i agree with cheap 22 bulk ammo i expect some ftf and malfunctions, normally 1 every 100-300 rounds. i can live with that for 3-5 cents a shot.

HOWEVER.....i have almost ZERO problems with CCI.....i consider it quality (not THE best) 22 ammo, and it still goes 7-8 cents a shot. compare that to the CHEAPEST 9mm i have seen recently at around 30 cents a shot.

NO COMPARISON on price i'm afraid.
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i agree with cheap 22 bulk ammo i expect some ftf and malfunctions, normally 1 every 100-300 rounds. i can live with that for 3-5 cents a shot. .
I got way more than that with the cheap stuff.

CCI is absolutely the best bang for the buck, absolutely. I'd love to get a case of 'Standard Velocity' for the bolt, and 'Mini Mags' for the 10/22 & Mk III.

Eley .22 LR Match EPS is .30 per round at Champion's Choice, and that's not even the top shelf. The Eley .22LR Tenex EPS goes for .39 cents a round.

Here's what people at 'Rimfire Central' are paying for 22lr. ammo, more or less.

Acceptable, 0.067;

Good, 0.121;

Better, 0.156;

Because the number of people paying more than 0.25 PPR for the Best ammo is 15, and the TOTAL of people paying less than 0.25 is 26, and because 'more than 0.25' can be 0.30, or more, I've posted results with & without the more than 0.25 data.

Best without the >0.25 data is 0.173;

Best with the >0.25 data is 0.200
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I got way more than that with the cheap stuff.

CCI is absolutely the best bang for the buck, absolutely. I'd love to get a case of 'Standard Velocity' for the bolt, and 'Mini Mags' for the 10/22 & Mk III.

Eley .22 LR Match EPS is .30 per round at Champion's Choice, and that's not even the top shelf. The Eley .22LR Tenex EPS goes for .39 cents a round.

Here's what people at 'Rimfire Central' are paying for 22lr. ammo, more or less.

Acceptable, 0.067;

Good, 0.121;

Better, 0.156;

Because the number of people paying more than 0.25 PPR for the Best ammo is 15, and the TOTAL of people paying less than 0.25 is 26, and because 'more than 0.25' can be 0.30, or more, I've posted results with & without the more than 0.25 data.

Best without the >0.25 data is 0.173;

Best with the >0.25 data is 0.200
fair enough....but there is still NO QUESTION that 22 ammo is the cheapest ammo you can buy from factory.

22 cheapest- less than 5 cents a round
22 most expensive- maybe 30-40 cents a round (the ely match ammo i bought was $9 for 50)

9mm cheapest- 25-35 cents a round..more right now!
9mm most expensive- $1 or more a shot

no argument can be made that 9mm is less expensive than 22, unless you compare the absolute most expensive 22 against the absolute cheapest 9mm.

now....it that an accurate comparison of cost?

as to which the OP wants....if they are simply looking for the least expensive to shoot, the obvious answer is 22.
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fair enough....but there is still NO QUESTION that 22 ammo is the cheapest ammo you can buy from factory. . . . . .
Well yeah, given equal quality. I guess my point is the more affordable .22lr stuff goes first and what's left is the high end .22lr vs. the bulk 9mm, or something.

Personally, I'm considering air guns just because there's scads of .22 pellets around, the .22 AG rifles are good to about 50y - 60y, and regular .22lr isn't stable past 70 yards anyway.

So if economics is the key criteria, the OP should look into AGs if target shooting is his purpose. You could get several hundred .22 pellets for cost of one box of .22lr. There's a lot less restrictions on AGs too.
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Well yeah, given equal quality. I guess my point is the more affordable .22lr stuff goes first and what's left is the high end .22lr vs. the bulk 9mm, or something.

Personally, I'm considering air guns just because there's scads of .22 pellets around, the .22 AG rifles are good to about 50y - 60y, and regular .22lr isn't stable past 70 yards anyway.

So if economics is the key criteria, the OP should look into AGs if target shooting is the his purpose. You could get several hundred .22 pellets for cost of one box of .22lr. There's a lot less restrictions on AGs too.
good point.....but the only thing about air guns......no BANG! LMAO!

lately i have scored 22 cheapo bulk with (semi) regularity. i think we're gonna be good in 1-2 months IF there isn't another panic.
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good point.....but the only thing about air guns......no BANG! LMAO!

lately i have scored 22 cheapo bulk with (semi) regularity. i think we're gonna be good in 1-2 months IF there isn't another panic.
I pretty much have to agree with that! At one point I had less the 1K. Now we have well over 3K of assd. 22's including some match stuff(Eley & Federal auto match, make up about 1K). Had to buy some Remington Thunderbolts this past week,..but I'll shoot them first....
I'm not buying any this week but next week I'll get to DICKS and buy a few bricks...
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lately i have scored 22 cheapo bulk with (semi) regularity. i think we're gonna be good in 1-2 months IF there isn't another panic.
So, . . you're thinking I should hold off on a PCP system?
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